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6024 King Edward I - Overhaul progress

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Moylesy98, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. class8mikado

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    Disagree.
    By GWR degrees the afore mentioned ' Lowered King' has different Wheels, Cylinders, Boiler so its not a Castle, or a Star... (but by the same Token its not really a King either - Fitz class. lol). What it could do with a train would not be possible with either a Castle or a Star.
     
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    I was twisting it to make a case for a Star. ;)
     
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    Did any of the Swindon developments/ improvements/ enhancements result in a change of Boiler size ? Wheel size ? cylinder block size ?

    Don't think anyone is saying here that the work being done to 6024 means that it will no longer be a King, but that were more effective / radical steps towards making all that power more widely available taken, it perhaps wouldn't be, and unfortunately it wouldn't be a Star either.
     
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    I can see the sense of fitting slightly smaller cylinders for gauge friendliness, but no sense in turning down the tyres just for the sake of marginally increasing TE. In normal running, slightly larger wheels with slightly later cutoff would deliver the same power at the drawbar for very little difference in steam consumption. If the reason for turning down the tyres is to reduce the height, that is a slightly better justification, but still poor when the same could be achieved by the same measures as on 6023 without sacrificing a large part of the lifetime of the present and future tyres.
     
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    My understanding is that a new tyre thinner than nominal would not necessarily have the same scrapping thickness as one that has had serveral turnings. This is due to the fact that part of the scrapping decision is the hammering a tyre receives over a lifetime and a new thinner tyre would not have been subjected to this.
     
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    So what happens to the thin thinner tyres when the brakes are applied and they heat up a bit?
     
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    The size that a tyre becomes due for replacement is a fixed figure, it does not matter if it started off 3 1/2" thick or 2" it will still be scrap at the minimum allowed tyre thickness.

    The answer to std tanks question is that the tyre will expand and will possibly slip on the wheel centre.
     
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    I think you mean it will slip in the rim, not the wheel centre.

    Peter
     
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    A normal wheelset consists of a tyre and a wheel pan plus Gibson ring. The only part that the tyre can slip on is the wheel pan commonly know as the wheel centre.
     
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    Ok - thanks. I did not know that. So what I would call the wheel rim is also known as the wheel centre. The things you get to learn on Nat Pres!

    Peter
     
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    It's all terminology I'd take the term wheel centre to include everything apart from the tyre and axle. It would include the rim, spokes and balance weights. Although now generally cast as one piece, they were originally separate pieces derived from a traditional wooden cart wheel, which also had a tyre.
     
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    Boiler Hydraulic Test Passed

    Dear Paul,

    It is with considerable pleasure we are able to tell you that today, Thursday October 31st, 6024's boiler passed its formal hydraulic test with flying colours. The boiler inspector pronounced himself very happy with what he saw.

    Tomorrow (Friday) the boiler will be prepped for its formal steam test. The first fire since 2012 is expected to be lit on Sunday. Barring any problems we expect the steam test to be on Tuesday. Please keep your eye on your emails and the members area of the website for further updates.

    Best wishes,

    6024 Preservation Society
    www.6024.com
    contact@6024.com
     
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    Excellent news from the 6024 folk. <BJ>

    https://www.6024.com/boiler-passes-steam-test/

    6024’s boiler has passed its steam test.

    On Tuesday November 5th 6024’s boiler was subject to its official “in steam” boiler exam with our insurance inspector assessing the freshly overhauled boiler. Also in attendance were 6024PS officers and, of course, Riley & Sons (E) Ltd staff.

    Over the previous few days the boiler had been brought into steam for the first time since April 2012. The safety valves were initially set well below the normal 250psi, being raised in stages. As would be expected, and especially in view of the heavy work undertaken, this process highlighted a few areas needing further work. However, it is pleasing to report that this was no more than relatively minor if rather warm work! The vast majority of the boiler was right first time, a tribute to the quality of the workmanship.

    The boiler, which was tested in the ELR yard at Baron Street, Bury, has now returned to Riley’s works in Heywood for final painting and trial fitting of the ashpan. This will occur over the next week or so making the boiler ready for despatch to Minehead. It is planned to return it to the chassis on the same day it arrives.
     
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    Is it "just" a case of putting everything back together now then, or still more to do elsewhere?
     
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