6100 Royal Scot

Re: 6100 Royal Scot test runs

I did hear on the grapevine that Crewe were a little surprised by the red when they took the lid off the paint but it is apparently what was supplied with the loco.

 

Re: 6100 Royal Scot test runs

Have moved this thread to the Steam Traction forum, as it now more about latest news on the loco than just the proposed test runs.

 

David Ward of Bressingham said some years ago that the livery was authentic "because it had been in that colour longer than BR green, and had been seen by more people in the red livery"...or words to that effect, so if the colour it has just been painted is what Bressingham want, then it is "authentic" and thats that! ](*,) ...even if it is red and not maroon, and even though 46100 was a 1950 rebuild.
Just dont argue! At least it is another fine express passenger loco returned to steam.

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I advise losing interest after those words in most articles, the blokes never had anything sensible to say without having winding people up in mind.

 

That's a rubbish argument. Yes I'm happy that 6100 is a runner once more and no the livery isn't the biggest issue in the world but to argue that it's authentic is plain poppycock.

 

Spamcan:
I'm not for one minute saying that it is authentic, I'm just trying to get inside the "Bressingham" mindset! The comments I paraphrased above were Ward's reaction to crticism in previous years about the livery.

Lets be clear, 46100 was rebuilt with the current boiler style in 1950, so both LMS livery and the number 6100 are incorrect.

To quote David Jenkinson in "The Power of the Royal Scots" :

"...interestingly,No 46100 was not itself rebuilt until both green livery and smoke deflectors had been standardised. The engine is now preserved at Bressingham (Norfolk) in a spurious version of the pre-war LMS crimson lake"

That says it all really, and Bressingham appear intent on repeating history.

Surely if they wanted to have something other than green, it would have been acceptable to paint it in the BR maroon livery as 46100, as a "might have been" had the maroon livery applied to the Princess Royal and Princess Coronation locos in BR days been extended to other ex-LMS passenger classes?

I rest may case m'laud...

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Sorry squire. My comments were directed at Mr Ward's warped logic. As owner of the loco Bressingham has the absolute right to paint it as it sees fit and the vast majority of visitors to Bressingham will only have memories of it in LMS maroon of course. Would still prefer it in a livery it carried in service though.

 

I wonder how good it would look like in BR Maroon with 46100 as the number.

(may be not authentic, but it may look cool).

 

Slight pity though that when the restoration is done using public money, (aka Lottery cash) that no-one else has an input on these matters.

I agree, a reasonable compromise given that 46115 is in BR green, 46100 could have been painted in BR passenger maroon as 46100.

No offence taken btw , Spamcan.

Regards

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Good point about Lottery cash. I wonder what HLF would say if I applied for a grant to restore say, Donald Campbell's "Bluebird" and then proposed to paint it green!

 

Fresh of the press at WSR.rog

Royal Scot runs to Minehead On Tuesday 24 March,
LMS 4-6-0 no 6100 ran light engine from Bishops Lydeard to Minehead. The trip for Royal Scot was undertaken with several stops during which the locomotive thoroughly checked over. The following day loaded test runs were made. The loco was seen near Williton at sunset with seven coaches in tow. The loco will work the 11am from Minehead on Thursday 26 March. All seems set for a gala performance over the rest of the Spring Steam Gala. Keep an eye on the WizzerTweet news to the right of this page.

 

I was with Len on the first saturday he worked on it. We took the lid off the can, you should have seen his face it was a picture, he then asked me to go and find something to stir it with, he was at it for 5 mins and then said "nope that actually is the colour" lmao

 

You sure it isnt Lloyds?

 

I'll certainly support a tour no matter what the colour. It will still sound like a Royal Scot even if it's sky blue pink. Microphones don't record colour.

P.S. How's the new arrival getting on?

 

From a photographic point of view 46115 is the preferred option but from the sound recording aspect then I'm not bothered which one is making the noise. Keen to do a tour behind 46115 but finding out if it will be doing any of the SSE or Sunday CME tours is proving difficult so I may yet break my rebuilt Scot haulage duck behind 6100 first.

Good news about the baby.

 

Re: 6100 Royal Scot test runs

 

who runs bressingham? david ward or the trustees? and after the debacle of 46100 how much longer?
ok the issue of livery is always going to get some people hot under the coller personally i would have prefered bressingham to have comprimised and painted it maroon rather than a livery that pre dates the loco as it is now, with the smoke deflectors, at least lord nelson carries a livery that matches its modified condition
whilst it never carried maroon it would have suited the engine and meant we wouldnt have 2 scots the same colour