6100 Royal Scot

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..... get caught telling porkies.

 

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;-) :-$

 

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Sorry to be a pain and at the risk of being told shut up or nothing at all.... is there any update with Scotty? ie is it looking more or less likely she will make the WSR Gala? [-o<

Thanks

 

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Is 6100 to be air brake only? Looking at the pics in Heritage Railway, there is no sign of the front vacuum pipe although the air hoses are on underneath the buffer beam (it is, of course, quite possible the vac hose just hasn't been fitted yet). However, seeing as it has (so far) been restored by the Southall team who did 4472 in the late 90s which appeared as air brake only, I started to wonder if 6100 is being turned out the same way (I seem to remember that the loco is now air braked). That said, it would seem perculiar if she is supposed to be off to the West Somerset Gala where the stock is vacuum only (I think?).

Can anyone enlighten me?

 

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Photo of cab in a previous HR show it to be a bolt on job with train air supply.(as compared to full airbraking) There's still a Deeley for the steam vac system to run separately

 

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Dual braked. The front bag hasnt been fitted yet as access is required to the centre cylinder and valve.

 

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Is 6100 going to be at the WSR Gala?

 

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Cant answer that question. although i believe 6100 (and 6201) was due to be on steam test today, whether this happened or not i cant tell you, depending on the snagging list and (as far as i know) the fact the engine hasnt moved under its own power it will imho be touch and go

 

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6100 and 6201 were both in steam at Crewe today.

 

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Thats good news - Any pics?

 

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Sorry, no - seen from a passing train.

 

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The aim is for the second weekend from what I hear.

 

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She is going to be weighed this next week apparently so can't be too far off.

 

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I saw them too. Looked as if the first coat or two of maroon had gone on Royal Scot too from what I could see.

 

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I would like to introduce myself on hear before saying any opinions, I have worked on both Flyingscotsman and Royal Scot at Southall I would guess that some on hear would know me, and I could get good odds on who Bongo is. I am sure I know others on hear too, and yes I know lastminute.com. (as someone has called him) What I would like to say up front is that the people at Southall put blood sweet and tears into both Scotsman and the Scot. For the last year of Flyingscotsman at Southall there was no money, there was the fear that we would turn up there and all the locks had been changed, there were times when we had to beg for parts to keep here running. So I hope you will all understand that the volunteers (not hangers on as someone said) all done a hard job, and there should be no blame put on any of them. Some have moved on and some sadly have passed away.
If you want to know the truth about the Scotsman’s condition when at Southall ask the men that worked her IE: The EWS Crews that would say how well she run. they will tell you the truth. How many times had the Scotsman when at Southall failed on the mainline? and how many trips did she do? I know the answers do you
I will never understand the Scot going to Crew, Wasting over a week of work in moving it there. Losing some skilled people that had put so many hours in working on her. I am not going to get involved in the leadership at Southall; I will only say that Roland is a good engineer with more knowledge than most on this board.
Thank you for your time.

 

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What a load of abject nonsense.

I don't think many would dispute that. But unfortunately the management didn't do likewise.

That speaks volumes doesn't it. And yet you go on to try and make a case that there wasn't much wrong. Truly amazing!

Yes, and are you going to tell us all about the time that scotsman worked a train from Stratford back to London with a driving wheel spring missing. And about the brake gear falling off the engine on its way into Bristol on another passenger train, only to work the same train back a matter of hours later. You really think that's good management and reliable performance do you?

Won't or not capable of?

As far as Scotsman is concerned, one only has to pay attention to the issues that have been raised since it moved to the NRM

And if the work on the Scot is so good, then why has it been put in the hands of competent engineers (at last) to rectify the problems. And why has the RBS put a writ on it claiming ownership?

 

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Wow you know what you are talking about then, Yes there was no money as the comapny that rum the scotsman bere on the verge of going bust, Thats why the enging went on the markent and how the NRM got it, Snidy remark to something every one knows.

As I said Im not getting into that one

Common sence says so

But was it not you that called the team at Southall Hangers On?

 

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I see Mr Bongo or Kim or Pete which ever the 2 he is is once again back doing what he seems to enjoy at the expense of others hard work and determination!

Theres nothing like a bit of encouragement is there???

Stan

 

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Nor brutal honesty !

 

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I see. So why then do you get upset when people point out that the same regime has succeeded in taking two high profile projects to financial ruin in the same premises? Not only that, but with somewhat similar QA issues as well.

No, I certainly did not. Maybe you should read more carefully. The hangers on are those that get paid hansomely for doing a poor job. Where do you think the bulk of the costs have gone? Volunteers don't come into that category. Still, if the cap fits.....