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Reference to the Charity Commission's web site shows a return for the Crewe Heritage Trust dated 31st March 2008 and the list of trustees therein does NOT include Mr Mojo. It does however include one Colin Worrall. So if Mr M is now a trustee it is obviously a recent appointment; perhaps on the lines of what the Daily Mail would term a labour peerage?

You do however have to say that if they haven't got a proper engineer any longer, the engine may well be safer for the time being sat in the Heretic centre warm and dry, than it would be with a scratch team trying to run something which they may not fully understand.

 

Except it's not warm or dry,especially when it rains.

 

Reference to the Charity Commission's web site shows a return for the Crewe Heritage Trust dated 31st March 2008 and the list of trustees therein does NOT include Mr Mojo. It does however include one Colin Worrall. So if Mr M is now a trustee it is obviously a recent appointment; perhaps on the lines of what the Daily Mail would term a labour peerage?

You do however have to say that if they haven't got a proper engineer any longer, the engine may well be safer for the time being sat in the Heretic centre warm and dry, than it would be with a scratch team trying to run something which they may not fully understand.[/quote:mxox6mat]

Colin Worrall has never hidden the fact that he is a trustee of the Crewe Heritage Trust, unlike the Chairman of the 6201 Society who has conveniently forgotten to mention to anyone that he has been a member of the Crewe Heritage Trust for some months.

 

Colin Worrall has never hidden the fact that he is a trustee of the Crewe Heritage Trust, unlike the Chairman of the 6201 Society who has conveniently forgotten to mention to anyone that he has been a member of the Crewe Heritage Trust for some months.[/quote:2s9sadjm]

CORRECTION On re-reading this it should read:-

Colin Worrall has never hidden the fact that he is a trustee of the Crewe Heritage Trust, unlike the Chairman of the 6201 Society who has conveniently forgotten to mention to anyone that he has been a TRUSTEE of the Crewe Heritage Trust for some months.

 

Its hardly a secret, Clives been a trustee for about two months, and the appointment of himself and others as trustees was published in various railway magazines. Oh but of course I forgot ......

Unlike everything that you read on internet forums which is of course the gospel truth ](*,)

 

Just for information purposes, the post made by "The Shunter" in this thread, and the subsequent reply from marklnwrh have been removed from this thread as the content was not acceptable for a public forum.

 

Its hardly a secret, Clives been a trustee for about two months, and the appointment of himself and others as trustees was published in various railway magazines. Oh but of course I forgot ......


I accept that Clive was accepted as a TRUSTEE to Crewe Heritage Centre and its trust a few months ago, and I presume that the centre published this information through its normal channels, both to its members and supporters and also with press releases.

I was not questioning the workings of the Centre or its Trust, but merely stating that for the membership of the 6201 society, the information of this appointment of Clive as Trustee has not been conveyed to them, before, at, or since, the society's AGM and has also not been mentioned in the society newsletter, unless of course any of the 6201 members are involved with the centre, which not many are, they then would not know.

My point was more of suppressed information to the 6201 membership, sorry if the Centre felt slighted

 

No worries Sidmouth - thanks for clearing things up.

 

With regard to Clive Mojonnier being a trustee of the Crewe Heritage Trust. Yes D1963 I do agree the fact has been published in various Railway Magazines, but not all 6201 membeers purchase these. I also believe mention was made in the Crewe Chronicle, but we do not all live in the Crewe area.

I understand Colin Worrall was very honest at 6201's AGM in September, and told members that he was on the trust. The same can not be said of the chairman, Mr. Mojonnier, who calmly sat at the table with the rest of the committee and said not one word about his involvement.

I myself can confirm that there is no mention in the 6201 newsletter which was sent out to members last week.

As Clive is not inclined to call an EGM, can anyone out there suggest how members can go about calling one themselves. - The membership is made up of people from all over Britain, (unless you are a committee member you have no idea of names of members,let alone addresses) it is not easy to make contact. How many members do we require to call an EGM?

 

If, as it appears, the 6201 society is a limited company, then,

Re EGM, there may well be provision for this in the society's Memorandum & Articles of Association. Alternatively there is provision under the Companies Act 1985, Section 368 for an EGM to be held on request by 10% of the share capital or voting rights members.

Re Membership lists, Section 356 provides for a list of members to be open for inspection
during business hours, or a copy of it to be provided on request at a charge of 10 pence for every 100 words, and to be supplied within 10 days of receipt of the request. Failure by the company to supply, or to refuse to do so, is an offence under The Companies Act.

I am not aware that the situation has changed significantly since that given in my Butterworths Company Law Handbook of 1991.

 

Not sure that posting names and adresses of people is a good idea - need to check it out, if its all ok, details will be reposted.

 

The address on this page may be usefull to those 6201 members wanting an EGM.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/bbb8c ... ompdetails

 

A limited company can also be a charity. The NVR, for example is both a limited company and a registered educational charity.

 

The last time I consulted the HLF guidelines the organisation applying did not have to be a charity but it had to be 'not-for-profit'. Being a charity wasn't essential.

 

There is a contact address on the 6201 Society's website.

 

With the correct name to hand, I have searched the Charity Commissioners site and 6201's owners appear not to be a Charity.

Companies House states it is a Company limited by guarantee as opposed to the more normal Share Capital. This means all members are "members" of the Company, but there are no shreholders.

Such "no-for-profit" organistions can qualify for lottery funding, although they may need to make certain changes to their Articles to qualify. I woudl expect this would include what happens if they have finished with the items in their collection and which have had Lottery funding spent on them. Of course, you need to define "finished with"!