6233 Victoria To York 19/12/15

email from RTC today Notwork Flail have not let them know timeings yet

 

Now on Realtime. Brent Curve has a 13 min stop , water ?that was a watering place about10- 15 years ago for MML specials, also 13min at Kettering, and then all the way to Barrow Hill. All sounds a bit tight to me with water .Might be one or two surprises here, light load or big push.?

 

A big push I reckon ! IIRC 46115 struggled for water last year, over the MML & was pushed over the top of Sharnbrook Summit at 70mph.

 

That's because she didn't get a chance of a top up after leaving Southall. Opentraintimes.com has the 13 minutes stop at Brent Curve Jct. for water so maybe a big shove won't be needed.

 

Hopefully, I now remember that was the case with the Scot last year.

 

Vic to York: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54243/2015/12/19/advanced
E&C York to Butterley: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54247/2015/12/19/advanced

 

Can anybody remember the last time 46233 took to the Midland Mainline ??

 

I was on a south bound into the old St Pancras i think it was a Past Time trip

 

That last record I have is December 8th 2001, when in LMS red. However, I do believe she has done a light loco run to/from Butterley much more recently. I am willing to be corrected on that though!

Cheers,
Tim

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Yes .08/12/2001 ,it was advertised as a running in trip, also the last steam to use St Pancras station before rebuilding. I photo'd it climbing up to Corby tunnel, it was nearly sunset ,also a silhouette leaving Kettering. This was probably the first time a Duchess /Coronation class had been down the southern part of the Midland as all L M S class 8Ps were banned,to wide over the cab I was told when I was a lad.There were two diversions due to bad accidents from WCML in the 50s, when the 8Ps had to come of at Crewe or maybe Nuneaton.One on the 8/10/1952, the Harrow and Wealdstone disaster and 16/08/1954 when a empty wagon train became derailed at Wolverton spreading wagons all over the place..On the 8/10/1952 I noted the Royal Scot express with the usual 16 coaches on, that had stopped at Kettering North Box with a Crewe South black 5 ,the driver had had enough of this and needed assistance . Kettering rose to the occasion and produced a Blackpool L M S compound ,which had been prepared to work a fruit train to Manchester So the Royal Scot left Kettering with a Crewe South Black 5 piloted by a Blackpool compound. I've no record a L E movement ,but it has run up the ECML and via Melton Mowbray to Butterley.
Cheers,
Tim

 

A friend tells me he filmed the Duchess near Sharnbrook Jn northbound on 20 October 2012 on this trip:
http://www.uksteam.info/tours/t12/t1020b.htm

 

I photographed that one on the Bletchley - Bedford Branch, not a route used for steam very often.

 

Thanks for reminding me of that one ,I was abroad on holiday during most of Oct 2012,hence no entry in note book.

 

46233 reported at Corby 7 mins late at 10:08. 47.854 hanging on for dear life at the rear. <BJ>

 

The 47 stole the show up Sharnbrook, with the Duchess just going through the motions ! Roll on next year !

 

Harpenden, Duchess doing most of the work.

 

Farce. Presume water issues a spec 46115 last year. Looked at RTT and the Brent Jct. stop was missed out so the suggestion on opentraintimes that it was a water stop looks to have been wrong.

 

Thanks, Mr KNOWWUN...great vid but then your closing page led straight to kids vids which I have just spent 55 mins on with my granddaughter !!! Love it

 

Nice sounding plod thro' the 1842 yard long Glaston Tunnel( Rutland), with a well controlled slip at the exit .Diesel just ticking over on the rear.Sorry for late post ,just back. Well worth going.