If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

70013 over Shap and S&C 19th March - Cumbrian Mountain Express

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by dp266, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. 05micfis

    05micfis Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2009
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    0
    Looks like a great day was had by all and looking from everyone's footage, Shap was assaulted in true 70013 fashion!! The Roaring Monster headboard was certainly fitting. Can't wait to see some footage from Oxenholme if there is any!!
     
  2. Alberta 45562

    Alberta 45562 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2006
    Messages:
    4,893
    Likes Received:
    585
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Train Simulator Developer
    Location:
    Cudworth,Barnsley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  3. palace gates

    palace gates Guest

    This was the first Brit since the Football Special From Carlisle to Blackpool South and return on Boxing day 1967 with the same engine.Hands up who was there.I expect Tbird Frank will give us a report.
     
  4. acw71000

    acw71000 Member Friend

    Joined:
    May 13, 2008
    Messages:
    873
    Likes Received:
    1,410
    Location:
    Liverpool
  5. Swiss Toni

    Swiss Toni Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,961
    Likes Received:
    3,664
    Location:
    Switzshire
    Excellent :clap2:
     
  6. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2005
    Messages:
    36,449
    Likes Received:
    9,909
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Location:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Excellent videos from all,
    Mark that shot near the summit is worth the walk, and Ramsgreave is also a good location despite being in a cutting.
    Austin, 3 great clips...
     
  7. dp266

    dp266 Member Account Suspended

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    374
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Project Management
    Location:
    County Palatine of Lancaster
    Excellent day out on Board the CME and 70013. Cracking run from Crewe to Preston with the Roaring Monster topping 80mph between Wigan and Euxton. Approach to Shap severely impeded by temporary speed limit just south of Tebay. Shades of 1968 when the old boy made a standing start with no banker. Made for an authentic experience but I guess the fireman was less than pleased at the speed restriction just at that point. Took Shap at 23mph with a great soundtrack. Gained time from Shap to Carlisle by topping 83mph at one point.

    Return over S&C was as brilliant and took Ais Gill well in its stride. No delays and a great run through East Lancashire back into Preston.

    Congratulations to Crew for an excellent run and the RTC staff on board for looking after us so well.
     
  8. dalrypaul

    dalrypaul Guest

    I suspect you may have a mis-calibrated speed measuring device. I could've sworn 70013 never went above 75mph ;-)
     
  9. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2005
    Messages:
    36,449
    Likes Received:
    9,909
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Location:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I think there may be a 3% error allowance in loco speedometers, hence the 77 with 6201 the other week:)
     
  10. dp266

    dp266 Member Account Suspended

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    374
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    Project Management
    Location:
    County Palatine of Lancaster
    GPS has never lied so far.... But what the eye doesn't see ;-)
     
  11. acw71000

    acw71000 Member Friend

    Joined:
    May 13, 2008
    Messages:
    873
    Likes Received:
    1,410
    Location:
    Liverpool
    Thanks for your kind comments Ralph and Stuart. I must have been quite near you at Birkett Stuart, lovely shot you got despite the light not being brilliant. Does anyone know who the crew were yesterday? Excellent performance on Shap considering the speed restriction south of Tebay.
     
  12. Horwich-works

    Horwich-works New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    Vehicle Engineer
    Location:
    Horwich
    Cracking pics and videos wish I could have been out for it on shap , managed to get too Whalley arches last night and just prayed it wasnt late as light wasnt the best roll on british summer time . the link to the clip is below

    Dave

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsVewYMLsE
     
  13. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2005
    Messages:
    36,449
    Likes Received:
    9,909
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Location:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Thanks a cracking shot David.
     
  14. Horwich-works

    Horwich-works New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    9
    Occupation:
    Vehicle Engineer
    Location:
    Horwich
    Cheers Ralph wasnt sure if it wasnt going to be a wasted trip

    Dave
     
  15. garstangpost

    garstangpost New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    83
    Regarding First Brit over Shap in Preservation
    70013 worked over Shap on 10/08/2008
    after working 1T57 over the S+c

    5Z70
    0.0 Carlisle d 15.52 70013 E+2C
    Petterill Bridge Jc a 15.54
    d 16.01
    Upperby Bridge Jc a 16.08 water
    d 16.35
    Carlisle a 16.40
    d 17.00
    Plumpton UGL a 17.35
    d 17.45
    Penrith 17.55
    Tebay 18.23
    Oxenholme a 18.46
    d 18.54
    Carnforth UDGL a 19.16
     
  16. leander

    leander Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2007
    Messages:
    803
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wymington Beds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Thanks to every one who made yesterday's trip possible, being a week day there were a lot of surprised travelers on the platforms when we went through and as for SHAP the hair's on the back of my neck are still standing ( driver peter kirk know's how to handle a loco) thanks for the phot's and vidio's they were very good
     
  17. Alberta 45562

    Alberta 45562 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2006
    Messages:
    4,893
    Likes Received:
    585
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Train Simulator Developer
    Location:
    Cudworth,Barnsley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Thanks Ralph,yeah sure was :D I had to run from when you rang me though,as we had only just left the car!
    As for Ramsgreave,we were going to Langho,but changed the plan at the last minute :)

    Great vids guys.
     
  18. Swiss Toni

    Swiss Toni Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,961
    Likes Received:
    3,664
    Location:
    Switzshire
    Yes I'm just glad you stopped panning or edited when you did! :peep:
     
  19. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2005
    Messages:
    36,449
    Likes Received:
    9,909
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Location:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I don't think a Loco and 2 support coaches really counts..
     
  20. acorb

    acorb Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    2,950
    Likes Received:
    4,382
    Location:
    Powys
    Not sure about that 83mph claim, my gps never recorded that, though agree with the earlier figure which was touched very briefly at that location, the satellites having a combined blip at that point! Great day out Friday, I am now very much a Brit fan, this was my first run behind one on the big railway. Was very suprised and delighted to find Standard class right at the front of the train departing Crewe and the terrific sound track started from there. Would love to see footage from Warrington as she tore through at 77mph, power on and whistle going -true 'show boating'! Grayrigg was superb, 60 mph through Oxenholme and topped at 40 mph comfortably at the loop. The speed restriction at Tebay didn't appear to be expected as she powered away from Grayrigg accelerating rapidly reaching 66mph before the TSR board was spotted. This restriction was left over from last Sunday when it caused my return Edinburgh train to be delayed by an hour at Penrith-nobody had informed Control that the line was clear and work completed... The recovery was ferocious, 70013 seemingly having plenty of steam available and she met Shap at 55mph. At this speed it was always going to be a slog but Ollie seemed totally in control with a minimum of 21.3mph at the top. A fast run down to Carlisle ensued with frequent braking to keep speed in check, I never had more than 79mph on this section and this was brief before brakes were applied.
    Departure from Carlisle was on time and this time we were in coach 11, not that this meant much as it sounded as if Ollie was next door! A 30 mph slack through Kirkby Stephen lead to fears that it could be a long slog to Ais Gill, but the driver had other ideas, there was a significant rise in noise levels and the train accelerated to 46mph before settling down to low 40's with a minimum of 38mph at the top, a terrific effort.
    The water stop was skipped at Cherry tree and we were a 15 mins early and held outside Preston for a while before being let in.
    All in all a brilliant day out, 70013 seemed in total control of what may have been considered one coach too many for a class 7 on this route. Well done and thank you to all concerned.
     

Share This Page