7828 Odney Manor

Wasn't 4358 a bit of a celebrity? I think it was the last 43xx mogul to be withdrawn & was used on a railtour double headed with 3440. I read somewhere that it had to be detached from the said tour due to a weight restriction (Barmouth Bridge?) & run on light to be re-attached to the train afterwards. I think the tour was called "Daffodil" or something.

 

Buseng - I think the trip you are thinking of with 4358 and City of Truro was in South Wales and memory (not sure how reliable!) tells me it was the Crumlin viaduct. I can remember reading about that trip but have no idea in what and where it is in the house to be able to say for certain
DH

 

It was 4358 that worked with 3440 in May'57 (one picture of her with Truro), and they did part to go over Crumlin viaduct. As you can see from these snaps 4358 did have a tender lined out as 7828 is today at the WSR. The other shot of 4358 should answer most of the questions about the Green frames as it's clear to see tham here in this picture from June'57.
It would seem that 6372 & 6385 as had the shame lining due to a Royal train duty in May'56.

Other picture is of 7828 in Sept'57, early crest but no 'extra' lining than normal round the tender.

 

The tender with 7828 looks non standard, looks like 3500gal frame but with a slightly different tank design, I think the original flare would of been where the line of rivets are just above the crest. I think one of the old Reading Station up pilots had one of these tenders, Collett mogul No. 7331. Could even be the same tender!

 

As a Ryder era rebuild the current tank is non authentic being too high compared to the standard Churchward 3500g design.

The intermediate style tank was higher (only example now with 7325) on the same style chassis.

 

I was referring to the tender with 7828 in the picture posted by steadyeddie.
http://railways.national-preservation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3255
As an aside, what tender does 3205 have?

 

Ahha 4358's red reversing lever! Not seen a colour photo of that before, thanks for showing it. For those of you unaware, any loco that was overhauled at Caerphilly (?) Works in Wales had their reversers painted red. Was some sort of works tradition they did there.

 

3205 now has a Collet 3000g tender & one other tender of this type still exists - currently with 3803 though in the preservation era this has previously been used with 7812 then 7820.

 

Jim, they are referring to the 'running plate angle' not the mainframes.

 

Phew! I've never seen a green framed BR loco but I don't know enough about WR paint schemes to make any contra-statement. It makes a lot more sense when it is the valance angle that is being referred to.

 

I don't think the current tender is intended to be a long term companion for Odney. There is another tender frame at MD awaiting refurbishment that I understand will be built into it's eventual tender.

 

Reports yesterday suggest that the last few days in Minehead shed have been well spent with the loco running better than on it's first outing on the 18th Sept.