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82045 The way ahead?

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Kinghambranch, May 24, 2008.

  1. gios

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    They are fore and aft movement damping springs. The assembly as photographed is upside down. The front BR Standard pony trucks are based on the LMS Ivatt design front pony trucks as on 46443 and 43106. Hope that answers the question.
     
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    Thank you. Apologies for being thick but when you say fore and aft movement, what movement is this, as the central sliding block is presumably a fairly snug fit in the frame?
     
  3. gios

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    Sorry huochemi,

    I'm just one of the hapless monthly updates posters.

    I don't really know the answer to that one. All I can say is that the pony trucks are being built with some precision to the original BR drawings.
     
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    The side to side movement of the front pony truck centre block is controlled by two long springs that go across the inside of the top frame casting. The side to side movement of the centre block is further restricted by the two damper units you refer too. The pads on these two units act on plates bolted to the centre block.
    I might add that the side movement of the centre block on the hind pony truck is controlled by swing links, but, that too, is fitted with the damper units to further control the side movement.
     
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  5. gios

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    Thank you kind sir (std tank). I was hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself would come to the rescue.
     
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    Thank you. That makes sense. Presumably these trucks were not fitted with side bearing pads like the 8F truck? (where the tendency to oscillate seems to have been counteracted by inserting friction material under the "spittoons"). I also noted the swing link truck had provision for the dampers which suggests that swing link trucks are also prone to setting up oscillation, although possibly not a common feature of swing link truck design generally.
     
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    Good to see them making progress, they did seem to be thoroughly caught by covid - finally getting the work under cover with paid workers just in time for work indoors to be stopped and the paid workers furloughed...
     
  9. gios

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    The note in the update concerning the generous donations towards the coupling rods is maybe a small indication that despite COVID making life difficult for all, there has been progress taking place in the background. It's always a truism that it is impossible to convey to supporters the sheer volume of work going on in the background.
     
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    Indeed, and I wish them very well, I was just noting the swings and arrows of outrageous fortune, the tone of the monthly reports indicated a feeling that they were on the home straight (with good reason), before nemesis bowled them a googly without waiting for hubris.
     
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    The 82045 Fund produces a 6-monthly newsletter for members in addition to the monthly news updates. Hopefully Chris Proudfoot won't mind my repeating his comment from the most recent (Autumn 2020) edition. "It is inevitable that the catastrophic (because that’s what they are) effects of covid-19 have affected the prognosis for completing the engine. However, we are still hopeful that 82045 will steam in 2022, though towards the latter end of the year."
     
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    Given the current circumstances the 82045 Trust appears to be making excellent progress on many fronts.

    Seasons Greetings to all and lets all hope you have a clear run in 2021.
     
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    The unknown location on the last picture in the update attachment is Hayfield, near New Mills
     
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    And on one of the other pictures: "The presence of what appears to be a Urie H15 in the left background suggests that this shot dates from the 1950's." The author has better eyes than me if he is confident that's a Urie H15 just from the very small photo!

    However ... more interesting is what looks to me like a Pannier Tank immediately in front of the claimed H15. Again, it is tiny, so I wouldn't be 100% confident - however a pannier would certainly be interesting. Towards the end of the 1950s the Southern Region did get some pannier tanks as a consequence of boundary changes, and it is possible that they ended up at Eastleigh for overhaul. In addition, I understand that the panniers sold to London Transport were overhauled at Eastleigh (supposedly in exchange for equivalent value of LT stock for the Isle of Wight - no idea if that is true or not!). All of which though might date the photo to the very late 1950s or early 1960s. In any case the loco has a later style totem, so presumably not very early 1950s.

    Tom
     
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    Agreed - LCGB 'Cotton Spinner' railtour 16/4/66.
    Ray.
     
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    http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2017/09/eastleigh-1961-1967.html?m=1
    4 March 1962 has 82015 and a couple of panniers on shed.
     
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    Really interesting. I've emailed Chris Proudfoot of the 82045SLT and pointed him at these comments.

    Patrick
     
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