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Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by tor-cyan, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. tor-cyan

    tor-cyan Well-Known Member

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    While changing trains at Leicester yesterday these beasts passed through the station heading north, was told they are on the way back to the NRM

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    Colin
     
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  2. Victor

    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    Very nice, thank you, it looks as though KOYLI was doing the honours on one engine.:Happy:
     
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    Rather like the Type 3 in the middle, probably the best diesel class in the world. (He says in no way at all biased towards class 37's)
     
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  4. Pity that D6700 still has the 'monstrous carbuncle' on each end that is completely at odds with the livery.
     
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    What - the yellow panel?

    I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why diesels need the yellow panels at all now, given the ready availability of high-intensity lights and I believe the rules were recently changed for the 'big railway' too? Would love to see diesels running in all-green.

    Three of EE's finest. Lovely. :)
     
  6. No, the high intensity headlight. 37s carried small yellow panels, and indeed some had full yellow ends, with green livery. High intensity headlights were a 1980s invention and I have despised them from that day to this!

    I like small yellow warning panels, because they break up green livery a bit and the slightly orange shade of yellow complements the green very well. I think all-over green is a little monotonous. although still better than the aberration that was Rail Blue. Only the FP white cab Deltics escape my ire regarding that particular livery!

    Sorry, paint froth...
     
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    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

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    All over green is rather drab, 40106 and 20059 looked better when they had yellow panels applied a few years ago. It does break the green up a bit same as the white cabs do on a Finsbury Park Deltic. I rather liked the white stripe on the Finsbury Park 31's when in blue.
     
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    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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  9. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    I have never understood why there cannot be removable headlights on lamp brackets? Something to do with 'group standards' I guess?
     
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    Was this not brought up in the Tornado test, the lights had to be upgraded for running over 75mph, and had to be high intensity, fixed to the loco, not temporary.

    I think it is why steam running at 75mph, is exempt, but with the 100mph test, the lighting needed upgrading, same with Bittern, i am sure it was mentioned, the Tornado lighting was loaned for this.

    Obviously, ready to be shot down in flames!!!
     
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    And I'm sure I've seen that they cannot be battery powered either.
     
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    Sorry to Hijack the thread but can somebody explain the following Terms
    Crank - is the same as a Gronk ?
    Shed - I understand a Skip is a class 67...?
     
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    Gronk Class 08/09 Shunter
    Shed Class 66
    Skip Class 67
    Crank - leave that to your imagination
     
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    Regarding the lamps, I am guessing the conditions applied for high-speed running are such that the lamp(s) are as fail-safe as they can be, so they can't fall off, there's no batteries that can go flat and/or they are hard-wired to the locomotive's electrical system, so there's no connectors to fail/fall out. Whether the lamps themselves have redundant filaments/elements I do not know but there'd be two anyway for Class 1 running...
     
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    So how does that apply on a steam loco?
     
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    i see, I thought I heard both Crank and Gronk used to describe Modern traction Enthusiasts...
     
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    'Gronk' supposedly comes from the noise that the rods of a 'worn' 08 make when it sets off.
     
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    Indeed and Modern traction isn't a term you could as apply to one of those anyway... or indeed a Deltic, or a 37.
     
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    Well, something on the loco must power the cab lighting - so I'd assume it can also be used to power a fixed light.
     
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    Battery powered, portable headlight ok up to 75mph. Above that it has to be a fixed light with a proper electrical feed.
     

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