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Bahamas, K&WVR - Carlisle 22/02/20

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Paul.Uni, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. Paul.Uni

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    It's also mentioned on the Bahamas Loco Society website 'What's on' page
     
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    Raw power ready to be unleashed on the mainline: 45596 Bahamas leaves Oxenhope in horizontal rain 9th February 2019. SAM_6054.JPG
     
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    Not seen any times yet on RTT but have received some confirmed times from KWVR

    OUTBOUND JOURNEY

    Oxenhope dep. 0815
    Haworth dep. 0820
    Keighley dep. 0855
    Skipton dep. 0930
    Langwathby arr. 1150
    Langwathby dep. 1215
    Carlisle arr. 1250

    RETURN JOURNEY

    Carlisle dep. 1529
    Appleby arr. 1615
    Appleby dep. 1635
    Skipton arr. 1835
    Keighley arr. 2000
    Haworth arr. 2030
    Oxenhope arr. 2040

    Looks like there will be stops at Hellifield on outward and return.
     
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    It looks like there's an on train raffle for a replica smoke box number plate, there's a photo and it's mentioned on the Bahamas Locomotive Society web site

    http://ingrowlocomuseum.com/?page_id=460

    Two different brunswick green Jubilee's over the Settle Carlisle this month within ten days, amazing !!!!

    What chance a double header sometime ?
     
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    Will Bahamas be let loose without a helping diesel on the rear this time over the S&C I wonder ;)
     
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    As I understand the run will be diesel free but as with all of these things, that could change
     
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    Last years Waverley with 'Bahamas' ran without a diesel, though it was a few degrees warmer in August....
     
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    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U10644/2020-02-22/detailed
    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U10643/2020-02-22/detailed
    If I have read RTT correctly, on the return journey it looks like the WC diesel will attach itself to the rear at Hellifield Goods Loop. Presume this is to drag the ensemble back from Kirkstall Goods Loop to Keighley. I guess the "normal" passengers will have detrained at Keighley and only the support crew will get this bonus mileage and a bit of rare track at Kirkstall? Probably also something else will take people from Keighley up the branch, as has been done before.
     
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    Agree about the diesel, BUT the train does not stop eastbound at Keighley so the passengers perhaps do go to Kirkstall Loop and back. At Keighley the train reverses and goes up the branch. At 20.36 5Z59 works the ECS from the branch back to Carnforth - probably.
     
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    I think you will find that it is booked non-stop from Skipton to Kirkstall Loop, then back to Keighley to set down. I guess if you need to be home earlier then you had better alight at Skipton and get a following train.

    Peter
     
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    Kirkstall loops are are passenger loops not goods loops - makes the operation so much easier.

    Peter
     
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    Ah yes, missed the fact that the train flies through Keighley. I call the Kirkstall Loops "goods" as these days they are almost entirely used for the stone trains from Rylstone/Arcow/Ribblehead. I accept entirely that they are designated as "up" and "down" passenger loops. (They are the remains of what was once a four track section including a flyover, all long gone.) There seems to be an aversion to using the crossover at Keighley for trains such as this special, anyone know why?
     
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    Yes. The time involved in shunting across the crossover would delay booked service trains. Not a problem when we do it at 21.15 this evening but it is during the day.
    Peter
     
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    Ok thanks.
     
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    As far as I understand it, on the return passengers transfer to Worth Valley carriages at Keighley to go back to Oxenhope. The diesel does attach at Hellifield for the last part of the tour, yes.
     
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    That's what I originally supposed, in line with previous trips, but, as rightly pointed out to me, I hadn't seen the lack of a stop at Keighley. I just thought it would be unusual to take the passengers all the way to Kirkstall and back, but at the moment that is what the RTT timetable shows. We wait and see if a Keighley stop is suddenly inserted into the schedule (or not!).
     
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    National Rail Enquiries says line expected to be closed till 19.30. Hope it reopens but if not my money is on WCRC finding one way or another to get the stock there.
    EDIT:Line now reported clear on National Rail Enquiries.
     
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