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  1. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

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    taking up Brighton Baltic's question from last September

    "Also, where does this leave us in the tally of ex-Barry locos steamed? I think 76084 marked two-thirds?"
     
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    213 locos to be saved for preservation through Barry (a few of which were later scrapped as donor locos), on the Wikipedia list I counted 61 yet to steam in preservation. Which means 71.4% of locos to have survived Barry have ran again since. That's not too bad!
     
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    It's amazing. Care to share your list?
     
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    And work is ongoing on many of the remaining 61. How many more are likely to steam in the next 12 months?
     
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    i meant your 61 yet to steam.....
     
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    They're there. Go down and it gives the status of each one. I'm too tired/can't be bothered to filter them out into a bespoke list :p
     
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    How many of those have a reasonable prospect of steaming, though? 42859 and 92245 for example theoretically could, but circumstance makes it vanishingly unlikely.
     
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    I was bored. Took the wikipedia list, no checks have been made. I may have deleted one or two entries by mistake, as not checking done on this copy. I included the scrapped locos (as they have not yet steamed). I am sure someone can update the progress on some of these as I believe 80097 is due out in the next month or two.

    List of locomotives formerly at Woodham Brothers saved for preservation Locomotive

    Class Date removed Location Status Notes
    Great Western Railway locomotives

    2859 GWR 2800 Class 01/10/87 Llangollen Railway Unrestored
    2861 GWR 2800 Class
    N/A Scrapped One of the "Barry Ten". Parts to 4709
    2873 GWR 2800 Class
    South Devon Railway Unrestored
    2874 GWR 2800 Class 01/08/87 Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway Under restoration
    2885 GWR 2884 Class 01/03/81 Tyseley Locomotive Works Under restoration Previously on display at Birmingham Moor Street railway stationfrom 2005 to 2013
    3814 GWR 2884 Class 01/07/86 North Yorkshire Moors Railway Unrestored Restoration stalled
    3845 GWR 2884 Class
    Private site Unrestored
    3855 GWR 2884 Class 01/08/87 East Lancashire Railway Under restoration
    3862 GWR 2884 Class
    Northampton & Lamport Railway Under restoration
    7027Thornbury Castle GWR 4073 "Castle" Class 01/08/72 Crosville Motor Services Depot Under restoration
    4248 GWR 4200 Class 01/05/86 STEAM - Museum of the Great Western Railway Conserved Displayed to represent a locomotive under overhaul
    4253 GWR 4200 Class 01/08/87 Kent and East Sussex Railway Under restoration
    5532 GWR 4575 Class 01/03/81 Llangollen Railway Under restoration
    5538 GWR 4575 Class 01/01/87 The Flour Mill, Forest of Dean Under restoration Previously displayed in Barry
    5539 GWR 4575 Class
    Barry Tourist Railway Under restoration One of the "Barry Ten"
    4942Maindy Hall GWR 4900 "Hall" Class 01/04/74 Didcot Railway Centre Rebuilt Rebuilt as GWR 2900 'Saint' Class 4-6-0 2999 Lady of Legend
    4979Wooton Hall GWR 4900 "Hall" Class 01/10/86 Ribble Steam Railway Under restoration
    5952Cogan Hall GWR 4900 "Hall" Class 01/09/81 Llangollen Railway Unrestored
    5967Bickmarsh Hall GWR 4900 "Hall" Class 01/08/87 Northampton & Lamport Railway Under restoration
    4110 GWR 5101 Class 01/05/79 West Somerset Railway Unrestored The 100th locomotive to leave Barry.
    4115 GWR 5101 Class
    N/A Dismantled One of the ‘Barry Ten’ – boiler to 6634, other parts to 4709.
    4121 GWR 5101 Class 01/02/81 Tyseley Locomotive Works Under restoration
    4150 GWR 5101 Class 01/05/74 Severn Valley Railway Under restoration The last ex-Barry locomotive at the Severn Valley Railway that hasn't operated in preservation
    5227 GWR 5205 Class
    Didcot Railway Centre Unrestored One of the "Barry Ten"
    5668 GWR 5600 Class 01/08/87 Kent and East Sussex Railway Unrestored
    6634 GWR 5600 Class 01/06/81 Severn Valley Railway Under restoration
    6686 GWR 5600 Class
    Barry Tourist Railway Unrestored One of the "Barry Ten"
    3612 GWR 5700 Class 01/12/78 N/A Scrapped Dismantled for spare parts
    9629 GWR 5700 Class 01/05/81 Pontypool and Blaenavon Railway Under restoration
    6984
    Owsden Hall GWR 6959 "Modified Hall" Class 01/10/86 Swindon and Cricklade Railway Under restoration
    6989
    Wightwick Hall GWR 6959 "Modified Hall" Class 01/01/78 Buckinghamshire Railway Centre Under restoration
    7927
    Willington Hall GWR 6959 "Modified Hall" Class
    N/A Dismantled One of the "Barry Ten". Frames and wheels to 1014, boiler to6880
    7200 GWR 7200 Class 01/09/81 Buckinghamshire Railway Centre Under restoration
    7202 GWR 7200 Class 01/04/74 Didcot Railway Centre Under restoration
    7229 GWR 7200 Class 01/10/84 East Lancashire Railway Under restoration
    Southern Railway locomotives
    30499 LSWR Urie S15 Class 01/11/83 Watercress Line Under restoration Expected 2020-2025
    30830 SR Maunsell S15 Class 01/09/87 North Yorkshire Moors Railway Unrestored
    31638 SR Maunsell U Class 01/07/80 Bluebell Railway Restored
    34010
    Sidmouth SR Rebuilt West Country Class 01/11/82 Swanage Railway Under restoration
    34058
    Sir Frederick Pile SR Rebuilt Battle of Britain Class 01/07/86 Watercress Line Unrestored
    34073249 Squadron SR Unrebuilt Battle of Britain Class
    Carnforth MPD Unrestored
    35009Shaw Savill SR Merchant Navy Class
    East Lancashire Railway Unrestored
    35010
    Blue Star SR Merchant Navy Class 01/01/85 Colne Valley Railway Unrestored
    35011
    General Steam Navigation SR Merchant Navy Class
    Private site Under Restoration to “as-built” condition The only locomotive in recorded history to carry the word "Steam" in its name.
    35022
    Holland America Line SR Merchant Navy Class 01/03/86 Crewe Diesel TMD Unrestored
    35025
    Brocklebank Line SR Merchant Navy Class 01/02/86 Private site Under restoration
    35029
    Ellerman Lines SR Merchant Navy Class 01/01/74 National Railway Museum static display Sectioned on one side to show the internal workings of a steam locomotive
    London, Midland, and Scottish Railway locomotives
    42859 LMS Hughes Crab 6P5F Class 01/12/86 Private site Dismantled Boiler scrapped, frames and wheels stored at separate sites.
    44123 LMS Fowler Class 4F 01/12/81 Avon Valley Railway Under restoration
    44901 LMS Stanier 'Black 5' 5MT Class
    Vale of Berkeley Railway Unrestored One of the Barry Ten. Boiler sold to Ian Riley
    45163 LMS Stanier 'Black 5' 5MT Class 01/01/87 Colne Valley Railway Under restoration
    45293 LMS Stanier 'Black 5' 5MT Class 01/12/86 Colne Valley Railway Under restoration
    45491 LMS Stanier 'Black 5' 5MT Class 01/07/81 Great Central Railway Under restoration Before 2020
    46428 LMS Ivatt Class 2MT 2-6-0 01/10/79 East Lancashire Railway Under restoration Main work started 2017
    48173 LMS Stanier Class 8F
    Churnet Valley Railway Under restoration
    48518 LMS Stanier Class 8F
    N/A Scrapped Boiler to 1014, other parts to 45551. Originally the only surviving Doncaster-built 8F
    British Railways locomotives
    75079 BR Standard Class 4MT 4-6-0 01/03/82 Watercress Line Under restoration expected by 2020
    76077 BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-0 01/05/87 Gloucestershire Warwickshire Railway Unrestored
    78059 BR Standard Class 2MT 2-6-0 01/05/83 Bluebell Railway Rebuilt Currently being rebuilt into 2-6-2T 84030
    80097 BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-4T 01/05/85 East Lancashire Railway Under restoration Expected 2018
    80100 BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-4T 01/10/78 Bluebell Railway Unrestored
    80150 BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-4T
    Watercress Line Unrestored One of the 'Barry Ten'. Small amount of work to stop additional corrosion done and make moveable
    92134 BR Standard Class 9F 01/12/80 East Lancashire Railway Under restoration Only surviving single-chimneyed 9F
    92207 BR Standard Class 9F 01/10/86 Private site Under restoration Named Morning Star in preservation
    92219 BR Standard Class 9F 01/05/85 Wensleydale Railway Unrestored The penultimate steam locomotive built for British Railways
    92245 BR Standard Class 9F
    Barry Tourist Railway Unrestored

    The formatting seems to have screwed up after copying from excel to here
     
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    So out of those 61, there's 6 that definitely won't steam on account of being scrapped/sectioned: 2861, 4115, 3612, 6959, 35029 (although I think this one is doing a tremendous job exactly as it is) and 48518.

    Leaving 55 potentials, although for all 55 to steam would presumably require a lot of optimism, a lot of work and money in excess of both.
     
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    2859
    2873
    2874
    2885
    3814
    3845
    3855
    3862
    7027Thornbury Castle
    4248
    4253
    5532
    5538
    5539
    4942Maindy Hall
    4979Wooton Hall
    5952Cogan Hall
    5967Bickmarsh Hall
    4110
    4121
    4150
    5227
    5668
    6634
    6686
    9629
    6984Owsden Hall
    6989Wightwick Hall
    7200 GWR
    7202 GWR
    7229 GWR
    Southern Railway locomotives
    30499
    30830
    34010 Sidmouth
    34058 Sir Frederick Pile
    34073249 Squadron
    35010Blue Star
    35011General Steam Navigation
    35009Shaw Savill
    35022Holland America Line S
    35025Brocklebank Line

    London, Midland, and Scottish Railway locomotives
    42859
    44123
    44901
    45163
    45293
    45491
    46428
    48173

    British Railways locomotives
    75079
    76077
    78059
    80097
    80100
    80150
    92134
    92207
    92219
    92245


    59 I make it
     
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    A good number of those 59 are under active restoration and likely to return to steam before too long. 34010 and 30499 for example.

    Also there are plenty of others that are in good hands and it's safe to say will be restored. 80100, 80150, 34058, 4110 to name a few.
     
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    Some examples of slow and fast progress on ex-Barry locos can be seen here. The transformation of 4253 is particularly impressive, whilst 6989 has taken years but is as good as done now.
    http://www.4253.co.uk/Whats_Happening_Now/
    https://en-gb.facebook.com/OwsdenHall/
    http://wightwick-hall-6989.com/id5.html
    When I bought my copy of the "Barry List" (a publication for the benefit of Urie Class S15 I believe) in the late 1970s I had absolutely no idea that so many of these locos would be restored to working order and become so popular.
     
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    Anybody have any idea where Wightwick Hall will be based once completed? With the best will in the world to the Bucks Railway Museum, I can't see a big GW 4-6-0 taking up permanent operational residence at a place with a very short demonstration line (although as I was typing this I thought that this has probably happened at Didcot when their Halls have been operational). Would be nice to see her stretching her legs somewhere a GW hall would fit in well but isn't often seen - Llangollen?
     
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    To bring it in a bit, how many are we likely to see in 2018?

    80097 and 92134 at the ELR seem pretty certain, any others? 34010 mentioned above looks a couple of years away, how about 30499?
     
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    I think we could expect 6989 next year, looking at their website most of the big jobs seem to be done, I get the impression it's just a case of finishing the tender tank, putting it all back together and adding some paint. Not that that's insignificant, but the most complex and expensive jobs all look to be out of the way
     
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    80150 BR Standard Class 4MT 2-6-4T
    Watercress Line Unrestored One of the 'Barry Ten'. Small amount of work to stop additional corrosion done and make moveable


    ??? About 700 man hours at the last count.....
     
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    crunching some numbers......
    of the 213 Locomotives that have left Woodhams Yard since September 1968, by my count 149 or 70% of them have now been returned to steam.
    Of those that have not been steamed so far :
    Two are used for museum display : 35029(sectioned) & 4248
    Three have been used for donor parts where frames have not been cut : 2861, 5227 & 7927 (frames used for County Class)
    Three have been used for donor parts where frames have been cut : 3612, 4115 & 48518
    One has reputedly had it's boiler scrapped but frames remain? 42859
    Hall Class 4942 is included and will return to steam in guise of 2999 Saint Class

    That leaves 54 out there that have not yet returned to steam a few of which are imminent such as 6989, 80097, 92134 for example

    Happy to be corrected if I have missed anything...
     
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    I was under the impression that 2861's frames had been cut. Unless anyone knows otherwise?
     
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    Yes, I believe this is correct, 2861 was cut up at Llangollen in 2014 with parts feeding 4709 & 3855.
    I also missed that prairie 4121 has yet to steam and had counted that it had.
    So 148/213 have steamed with 4942/2999, 6989, 80097, 92134 & 4150 to come soon along with 6880 that includes boiler from 7927
     

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