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Bluebell Motive Power

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Orion, Nov 14, 2011.

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    Although this evening's beers may be talking, I actually think this is getting easier rather than harder. To take the example of your DPhil thesis, we're now at the point where I have my last three computers stored as progressively more insignificant directories nested within my current hard drive. As each computer comes towards end of life, an inexpensive external hard drive is sufficient to take all the documents stored on the old machine and upload them with disturbing speed onto the new one. I may even use online storage for the same trick next time.

    With file formats, the important thing is that the specification for the format is widely published. For 3D CAD files, the STEP (.stp) format is a universal non-proprietary text file format that any major CAD package can import and then manipulate, although admittedly not as easily as if it was created as a native file. If the CAD file for your pattern is stored in this format then several generations of software down the line, somebody will still be able to work out how to extract it.

    If anyone suggests .dxf or .dwg as a format for your CAD archive, refuse with extreme prejudice, for it will save much wailing and gnashing of teeth in the long run; it's a 2D format crudely hacked to give 3D. The darling format of the 3D printer crowd, .stl, is also horrific. Everything is a few million tetrahedra...

    2D drawings can be stored and backed up as pdfs, which may be proprietary but the spec is widely enough known that there are all sorts of ways of creating and reading them. Whereas I happen to know that original paper versions of drawings for a machine in current service at my place of work were edited by rodents...
     
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    73082 Camelot approaching Horsted Keynes on the 4.00pm from Sheffield Park today.
     
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    CH 19 Well-Known Member Friend

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    Brilliant capture, well done!!
     
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    Except for the clown coloured dustbin two vehicles back...
     
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    Have you got a spare green'un to lend them then???
     
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    The green ones have been daubed in claret and pus

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    Would you have got blood & custard vehicles in a green rake in th 1960's ? or had most been repainted into maroon by then ?
     
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    Erm, its 2016, not the 1960s.
    It's a restored loco, not a Tardis.
     
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    Wish we had a few Blood and Custard's at the MHR. Would relieve the monotony of dull green coaches. We do have 2 (soon to be 3) maroon coaches, but they are equally dull;);)
     
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    I can remember when you had a rake of blood & custard, Another Chocolate & Cream, and two Green rakes.
     
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    Bluebell managed fine for over four decades with the southern green carriages or earlier liveries other than a brief unsuccessful foray into maroon (quickly turning to pink). All of a sudden the forever resisted red and yellow dustbin livery pops up en-masse. Might as well replace Kingscote with a bouncy castle, Burger King and mosque

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    We did have a Blood & Custard Bar Car recently & it went else where. :(

    I agree, ANYTHING to break the monotony!
     
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    Pardon? What's wrong with good old blood n custard? Frankly, that seems like a massive overreaction and makes you look a bit daft.
     
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    Hasn't the Blood & Custard bar car been converted in to a generator coach for the Belle set. We could always have Blue and Grey coaches, gets my vote. Wouldn't be out of place since blue and grey coaches did run on the Southern before the end of steam.
     
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    It has been quite a live issue on the railway of late.

    The heritage reason is that I believe (disclaimer: I'm not a C&W expert) an RMB has been painted blood and custard, but that is a carriage type that never wore blood and custard originally, being introduced too late.

    There is a commercial / branding reason (in my view) in that our cream tea train (the Wealden Rambler) was for a time the only Crimson and Cream set, and it gave a differentiation - Cream Tea train was crimson and cream coloured, and everything else was green - which appears to have been diluted of late.

    And then there is the C&W works throughput reason, which is that B&C takes longer to paint than green.

    If we are going to have blood and custard carriages, the ones I'd like to see would be the Bulleids, which being (mostly) BR built, I don't think can wear malachite. That would give a proper historical representation of liveries amongst the corridor carriages, with the Maunsells Olive Green; the Bulleids crimson and cream and the Mark 1s BR(S) green; mixed rakes of Blood and Custard Bulleids and Green Mark 1s would I think be prototypical if operationally required. But that doesn't seem to be the route we are following.

    Tom
     
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    Quite

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    Yes We now have "Electra" in the Belle---but a BG and staff /support coach, unlikely to be seen in one of the normal service trains. Keep a look out for a possible cameo appearance in a few weeks on the Countryman.....
     
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    Blood and custard is what some of us grew up with.
     
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    Fair enough, but no need to go all hysterical about it... It's hardly a sin of the magnitude of making Kingscote a bouncy castle...
     
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    He's probably been drinking. :)

    For the record I think blood and custard looks fine.
     

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