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Brighton Atlantic: 32424 Beachy Head

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Maunsell man, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Dunfanaghy Road

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    It will still have triple-valves on each coach. The driver can select Auto Air or EPB. They can be hauled as AB stock - I once (as shunter) had to collect 3 ex-Central side VEPs from Ludgershall. Electric handbrake with a manual override was not funny. Driver had to be careful as he was used to distributor braking (although I think we ran twin piped).
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    The air receivers will have to comply with the Pressure Systems regulations and, if new, the Pressure Equipment regulations. Once certified that will require routine examination by a Competent Person, usually at 24 month intervals but this can usually be done on the loco without significant dismantling, just as is done with diesel locos.
     
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    Don’t forget Fenchurch worked air braked stock when it visited the IOW and Stoomtram Hoorn Medemblick. It took ages to charge the train reservoirs in the morning. Both the E4 and 672 have a full Westinghouse brake, IE main and aux res and triple valve. When they are in traffic Drivers are tested and their knowledge and skill in using the air brake. Interestingly there is often a bit of ‘My railway’s hillier than your railway’ on forums, well some of the hardest firing I’ve done was with 672 and I think about 12 steel 4 wheelers on SHM. When the wind blows off the North Sea across the polder and pushes your train hard against the rail, there is a lot of resistance.

    IIRC the EP brake is not an automatic brake, it is the Westinghouse which makes it so. I could be wrong it was 20 years ago. When I was a clerk you would often hear Drivers using the Westinghouse for station stops on a Sunday, I worked at a quiet station right next to the platform.
     
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    The EBP brake is an overlay. If the unit had come apart, the Westinghouse would have acted.
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    I really like the colour, brown is so much more interesting than black!

    (Well it is NP and your supposed to discuss such!)
     
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    Dunno if any of the originals were trimmed to the composite SR loading gauge before losing their brown livery.
     
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    I don't mind admitting that I'm a fan of later BR liveries but to be honest, this little beauty will look good in whatever shade of paint they chose to use on her. I can't wait.
     
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    Altered in 1935-37, so more than a decade after losing the LBSC brown livery in favour of Maunsell green. I'd be quite happy for Beachy Head to carry LBSC livery regardless of the cab/ dome/ chimney height, but that will not be acceptable to sticklers for historical accuracy.
     
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    Ditto here. I was just imagining the world ending outrage should such an approach be adopted. Of course, a rake of suitably liveried stock would be the icing on the cake, though I doubt there's sufficient for that purpose. Just to see one of these magnificent beasties will more than satisfy me! :)
     
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    La France is technically an H1. (The obvious visual cue is the step in the running plate over the cylinders). However, in either form, they are very handsome locomotives.

    Ignoring livery, I think vernacular LBSCR bogie carriages are very rare: one on the Bluebell and four on the Isle of Wight. If there are any others lurking in farmer's fields awaiting restoration, they aren't recorded on the Vintage Carriage Society database - one of those historical quirks that the LBSCR loco-hauled stock was in general withdrawn earlier than the SECR and LSWR counterparts.

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    Gotta agree with you fully there Tom. Most steam locomotives generally are pretty good looking machines by most accounts, but the Brighton Atlantics in terms of their proportions and overall look... Be hard pressed to convince me there are better looking designs of locomotives, one of the best looking in my view, which is why I'm delighted with the fact that sure enough we shall have one grace us with it's beauty and fine style again.

    Another point to why I think it's so good looking is that fact that really I've come to the conclusion it looks great in any livery the class carried I reckon. Up till recently was very heavily preference towards SR Olive Green, but can't deny it wears the BR Lined Black really well. And what's more having seen Bachmann announce a sample (albeit a sample in H1 form), gotta say I'm much more leaned to Malachite Green now! https://www.bachmann.co.uk/product/...038-'portland-bill'-sr-malachite-green/31-911

    I know it's the most fond of SR liveries, but love to see the Atlantic carry it at some point in it's time working on the Bluebell. If that is the H2s were known for carrying that livery that is, assuming it wasn't just worn by the H1s.
     
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    Since it's not a "genuine" LBSC Atlantic, any livery carried by the Marsh Atlantics will suit me just fine. LBSC would look rather nice.
     
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    GNR green...
     
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    How about GNR green on the boiler as a nod to the heritage of that component and LBSCR brown for the rest?


    I'll get my coat.
     
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    And Maunsell green for the cab...
     
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    So what's needed to convert it to a GNR Atlantic. A new cab and running plate valance, for starters, but what else?
     
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    Tweaks too numerous to elucidate in one little post ..... anyhoo, wouldn't it be just better and easier all round to resuscitate No.251? A direct comparison between the two classes would be fascinating, plus you could still set foot in Sussex in safety. ;)
     
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