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Bulleid Pacifics - Past or Present

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 34007, May 13, 2008.

  1. Matt37401

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    Let’s just keep doing what we do and not learn from our mistakes shall we?
     
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    I understand from my late Father that the coal traffic was mostly worked by Ns and Q1s on the Eastern section. S15s were relatively rare on the Eastern section after WW2. I don't think any S15s were allocated to this area.

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    You are probably correct. I'm sure I have seen photos of S15's on freight traffic in Kent, it's just where....

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    I have seen a photo of Etarre on a coal train at Reading Power Station, I dont know where it came from.
     
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    I have seen pictures of them in Kent pre WW2. There are 1950s loco allocations of some Eastern section sheds in "Kent Coast Heyday" and no S15s are included. Perhaps they worked through from the Western section.

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    By 1959, all but three (30835/6/7, which were allocated to Redhill) were shedded on the SWD. The Bluebell's (30)847 was also based at Redhill at a slightly later date. I am open to correction here, but I think that Redhill-based S15s spent most of their time working heavy goods trains to and from the Guildford direction. They don't seem to have ventured any further east - i.e, into Kent.
     
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    The thing about the West Country and Battle of Britain classes, is that they could be seen hauling single coaches from say Padstow, and by the time that train reached Exeter, and a loco change, it could be many more coaches, well above the haulage capacity of say an elderly M7, or 4-4-0 Then at the same time, you see the same class regularly hauling 12 coach trains, on the main routes,
     
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    We could dig up what you actually said on the Thompson thread Victor: it is there for all to see. You were very unpleasant, let's leave it at that, and to be frank, so has Ralph W been both there and here, specific to me. It's not been criticism of my views particularly: it's been a weird campaign to undermine my character with some seriously spurious accusations.

    I've messaged Ralph W privately on a couple of occasions to try and clear the air and find out what exactly the beef is; to no avail. I am also happy to contact you privately to ask the same of you and happily clear any misconceptions, talk through my research, the evidence gathered, and so on and so forth.

    My door's always open for a resolution. I just don't understand the necessity from both of you to target me, specifically, when there's been other, dare I say more controversial, things said on the open forum by other members.
     
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    I'd be grateful for a reminder/link of what I said because I sure as hell can't remember. I can't remember being unpleasant.
     
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    We'll do it over PM if you like, but from my POV it's not necessary to haul you over the coals. Hell, if it's all a misunderstanding from both sides, that's something easily resolved.

    All I really want to do is talk railway history, as I'm sure we all do.
     
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    All I want to do on this thread is talk Bulleids but we are getting sidetracked once again. :rolleyes:
     
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    Great to see 34059 slowly but surely work it's way towards making a comeback on the Bluebell, been missing having a Bulleid in the the railway's operational ranks. Bit surprised of the amount of work their putting into the chassis though, as I got the impression most the work really was centered on the firebox, certainly seeing as it didn't run for that long after it's initial restoration.

    Still once the engine does return to service, I'm sure they'll be no doubt it'll provide reliable service for the next 10+ years, thanks to the amount of work put in with this overhaul.
     
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    Not sure whether its of interest but I found this document in amongst some papers I bought a couple of years back
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    Looks exceptionally interesting if official. Does it give information on who prepared it?
     
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    It gives an overvew of the modifications following the rebuild of 35018, rather interesting!

    Sadly there is no signature on it - Jut C.M & E.E Brighton, 10th Feb 1956
     
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    Ron jarvis? He was in charge of the rebuild/redesign if memory serves.
     
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    Jarvis, South of the river? Doubt it!
     
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    What are you doubting? Ron Jarvis spent the early years of Nationalisation on the Southern Region at Brighton and is credited with modifying the Bulleid Pacifics. No working from home in those days - of course he was south of the river then.

    Peter
     
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    Also responsible for some of the design of the Class 73 I believe.
     

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