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Bulleid Pacifics - Past or Present

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 34007, May 13, 2008.

  1. kieranhardy

    kieranhardy Well-Known Member

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    In all fairness no.

    I'm not siding with anyone but i havent seen anyone going into lengthy discussions about other traction going to eastleigh, just the bulleids. And sorry but at the end of the day 34059 is still a Bulleid. Just because there is a thread already about the loco doesn't mean we should be banned from mentioning it in here. Having said that, progress on the loco should stay in it's own thread that i posted in earlier. As both topics you have mentioned are more or less to do with Bulleids past and present (and future with the eastleigh event) i cannot see why this thread needs to be locked.
     
  2. Western Bulleid

    Western Bulleid Part of the furniture

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    Seeing as you seem so enthused about 34059, and I admire your enthusiasm, I'm surprised you don't look at the thread dedicated to it before shouting out news we already know.
     
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    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

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    Does anyone know if the unrebuilt MNs built with asbestos air-smoothed casing during the war were re-cased in sheet steel when they had overhauls later in their operational careers (or after a lagging fire)?

    To be honest, if it was up to me, all Bulleid-related news would be on this thread, but as it isn't, I'm keeping silent.
     
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    Thanks twofnine for putting me on to your site about the Nine Elms shed - was sat engrossed this evening reading the experiences of your fellow enginemen at the shed . Made for some interesting reading and information about Bulleid locos that I never knew - especially about the mods done to some of them - especially 34043 -- now it makes a bit more sense why she went first to scrap .

    cheers Richard
     
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    Thanks athelney for your post, glad you enjoyed the Nine Elms site. hopefully; it will get more material on it in time.

    Certainly regarding 34043, I cannot comment on this particular loco, because I never worked on it. 34033, 34035 ,and 34067, 34110 were the others I never had the pleasure of either. I believe 34033,35, and 43, 57 spent most of their time on Salisbury - Brighton services.

    35006, and 35009 evaded me on the Main Line also, except LE Nine Elms - Waterloo.

    Majority of Unconverted BB from Exmouth Jnct evaded me with high tenders with the scoop channel on the side(mostly Squadrons)
     
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    I know this is rather a odd question but do any colour pictures of the rather uniquely liveried west country Sir Eustace Missenden, Southern Railway survive and did it really have green wheels as per the hornby model of the engine?
     
  7. 34007

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    Sir Useless "Eustace" Apparently a bad steamer!
    And as far as I know she didn't have green wheels??
     
  8. Bulleid Pacific

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    I have a B+W picture of it in February 1949 in Mike Burridge's Nameplates of the Big Four (OPC, 1975), page 78, showing light wheel rims (it wouldn't be works grey as it's fully lined out, nameplated and early BR crested) with lightish wheel centres, which seems to confirm that 34090 had the yellow rimmed wheels. The caption beneath the photograph is as thus: 'It had a special livery of Southern malachite green with yellow bands. The wheels were green with yellow tyres instead of black'. As for a colour photograph, I cannot help you.

    It was known as Sir 'Useless' Missenden, as Dick Hardy has recalled from when he was in charge of Stewarts Lane. It was not one of the better engines as an unrebuilt, and the nickname stuck. By the way 34090 was a 'Battle of Britain', not a 'West Country'.
     
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    Can someone tell us what is taking the time with 35006 on the GWR?
     
  10. Bulleid Pacific

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    Waiting for the boiler to be completed at Chatham Steam was the last I heard, and finishing all the fiddly bits that need to be done prior to the boiler being re-mounted on the frames.
     
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    The restoration.
     
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    Yes, but anyone or anything called Eustace would be bound to be named "Useless" as there was a cartoon character "Useless Eustace" by Jack Greenall around that time.

    http://www.cartoonworld.org/listings1/

    And while we're on that subject, as kids we used to sing a song about Sir Trafford Leigh Mallory in which "Mallory" rhymed with "Lavatory"........I won't trouble you with the rest.

    BTW, Sir Trafford was the brother of the Mallory who died on Everest in the late thirties.
     
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    Was he by God, well you learn something new every day although I am thinking it was in the middle twenties, say 1924?

    Regards
    Chris
     
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    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Was he by God, well you learn something new every day although I am thinking it was in the middle twenties, say 1924?

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    8th June 1924 was the last time Mallory and Irvine were seen alive so your thinking is correct.
     
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    hmmm thats really odd... I'd like to think Bob14001 knows what a bulleid is considering he's driving one!

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    Maybe if BoB14001 dislikes Bulleids that much why is he driving one then. Maybe in the future he should stand down from the footplate when he is roster to drive a Bulleid and let someone eles drive it.
    :-k :-k :-k :-k
     
  17. 34007

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    Okay guys - Stop it with the handbags!! ](*,) ](*,)

    This is about Bulleids and not bitching about people!! Past or Present Bulleids - Any news etc... That kind of thing...

    Do you know that 34064 - Fighter Command was famous for the oblong ejector! The other being 9F 92250 and she was equiped with this in 1962......
     
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    Talking of 34064 with the Giesel oblong ejector system -- anyone on the forum work on it or drive it -- interested to know how it performed .
     
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    More likely to find people who have driven 34092...
     
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    I saw it a lot in those days but never travelled behind (or on) it. The Giesel ejector was fitted to reduce spark throwing by unrebuilts, for which they were notorious. (My dad was the fire prevention officer for SW division of the Southern.) Nor sure about this, but I think a spark grill was fitted in the firebox at the same time and the ejector was intended to mitigate the drafting issues a grill would cause. As I recall the combination was successful and 64 was regarded as a strong engine. (Wandering a little off-topic, if it was my decision I would have fitted Tornado with a Giesel, etc, to show what a steamer was truly capable of.)
     

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