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  1. malc

    malc Part of the furniture

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    I note that the Timings page of Steam Dreams website now has locos shown for the various legs of the tour...

    Day 1
    Class 67 Kent & Surrey - Victoria
    35028 Victoria - Okehampton

    Day 2
    35028 Exeter - Bristol
    60009 Bristol - Shrewsbury

    Day 3
    2 x Class 97/3 Shrewsbury - Porthmadog

    Day 5
    60163 Porthmadog (I think they mean Bangor) - Hexham

    Day 7
    70000 Weardale (Stanhope?) - Battersby

    Day 8
    60163 Malton - Victoria

    http://www.steamdreams.co.uk/executables/GT410WebContent.exe?ActionCode=Timings
     
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    Day 2 is interesting. I'm not surprised that Clan Line is substituting for Nunney Castle. UoSA is a surprise, though. Does anyone know whether that leg is still via the Central Wales line or is now via Abergavenny and Ludlow? An A4 would be an unconventional choice of loco for the climb to Sugarloaf...

    Tornado crossing the Britannia Bridge in Porthmadog and then squeezing through the Aberglaslyn Pass is the sort of thing I dream about ... after consuming port and stilton too late in the evening!
     
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  3. Steamage

    Steamage Part of the furniture

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    A friend who subscribes to Railway Herald passes on this information: "the Exeter - BTM leg is via Castle Cary and Westbury and (as I hinted yesterday) 60009 will run direct from BTM to Hereford & Salop and not via Cardiff. On the Monday, it looks like Tornado will come on at Crewe, the train having been diesel-hauled from Bangor."
     
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  4. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Tornado from Crewe makes sense as it takes longer than you might think to go via the Cumbrian coast. Plus, I presume that there is a Carlisle stopover that would require time to reverse.
     
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    Whichever route they take to Carlisle, the loco will have to turn before going on to Newcastle, so you can reckon on 1-2 hours lay-over.

    Personally, I'm sad at the loss of Newton Abbott-Exeter and the K4 over the Central Wales line. I was looking forward to filming Clan Line from Langstone Rock that Friday morning. With hind-sight I can see that the original plans for Day 2 were a very long way for one day, especially given that passengers will have to join the train by bus from where-ever they are staying Thursday night. Never mind...
     
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    The SD website has been updated and all locos except for Clan Line on Day 1 are now shown as "To be confirmed".
     
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    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Carnforth to Carlisle round the coast can take nearly 3 hour with diesel haulage, Tornado is not going to be any quicker, and via Shap, nearly half that. Lay over at Carlisle for servicing and turning steam is a 2 hour job, much less and it only needs a late running service train to ruin any schedule.
     
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    Very sorry to see the loss of 61994 up the Heart of Wales, was looking forward to something different up my local line & have a feeling it would have suprised a few people once again.
     
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    A morning run for a steam charter is most uncommon between Newton Abbot and Exeter.
    If the weather had been kind to us this could have been superb. Ha ho, that's life. <BJ>
     
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    You missed taking a run up to the slight tolerance gap in the rails between Canaerfon and Bangor ;)
     
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    Timings now up on SD site for day 1. Only showing to Exeter now. I wonder if the Okehampton leg is not now going to happen.
     
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    That sounds unlikely to me but if it's true, then that'll mean it will be pulled back by DL to Exeter prior to setting off for Bristol the long way around and then onwards. Friday feels like a long day if the Okehampton leg is really being tagged on at the beginning.
     
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    Amazing. Okehampton sorted. A decent schedule start to stop from Exeter to Taunton and something equally respectable from Taunton to Bristol. It also looks as though Cardiff has also been reinstated. I suspect that someone in Steam Dreams has worked v hard to get NR to pull this together. Well done.

    Now would someone talk to the apprentice who was given the job of timing the Cheltenham Flyer to see if NR can sort the mess out that is currently on Realtime trains. (See other thread)
     
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    Tornado is now been classed unavailable for day 5 for this tour, from Crewe, loco TBA, certainly its a poor do for the people who expected to be taken by Steam train, but there is a definite shortage of steam locos this year, with the loss of Britania, Scots guardman ect
     
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    60009?
     
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    I've heard a rumour this morning that the Victoria-Exeter leg will be DL-hauled, not by Clan Line. I can think of several possible reasons why this might be wrong (e.g. someone has seen "diesel hauled" on RTT without realising that is just means "not electric"), or it may be that the DL will stay on the rear, as with Tangmere on GB6 Day 1. Does anyone have any reliable gen? TIA

    Don't worry - a friend has seen Clan Line on the train at Victoria. Phew!
     
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    Could be the A4 if it is gauged for the coast route from Carnforth. Maybe it will do Crewe to Carnforth then diesel hauled round the coast and the A4 goes E+C to Carlisle via Shap and takes it on to Newcastle via Hexham.
     
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