I'm not directly involved with purchasing materials for the SVR Wagon Department, so I'm not really sure how much we pay for the iroko and keruing we buy, but these new oak "sleepers" (actually 8"x4"x8') look reasonably cheap to me at £25 each. They've got new unspecified hardwood or chestnut or slightly larger second hand oak at £20 as well. I doubt the new ones are seasoned, and the second hand ones do look like genuine creosoted sleepers, so I suppose we'd be better off with the new ones and store them somewhere dry and ventilated for a year or so first. They're not too far away, so I could take a trip over there and have a look at them. Has anyone got any experience with them? Is that a good price? Are they any good for joinery; wagon door frames, brake van running boards and the like?