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Churchward County Project

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by aron33, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Meeaoww. So true though. :D
     
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    If going for historical inaccuracy I would prefer a one off appearance in the other direction.

    Damn the top feed, long cone boiler, extended smokebox etc. and give a show with Indian Red frames, scroll monogram etc.

     
  3. Reading General

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    it's trainspotteritis, once they all die off we should see more authenticity (well, I won't I guess....)
     
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    Somehow, I doubt it! :)
     
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    Some of the the younger generation seem quite happy with such things as a red 8F so no guarantee of any more authenticity.
     
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    Dangerous ground, it has, therefore it is.
     
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    Some of us old codgers didn't mind it either. When all's said and done, it's just a coat of paint and it was being used to haul passenger trains at the time!
     
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    It bemuses me that a one time freight engine in freight livery hauling a passenger train is considered more authentic than a one time freight engine in passenger livery hauling a passenger train. If you are looking at the big picture which one is better?
     
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    Neither. They’re equally ok in my book.
     
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    As this project has a 53xx and a tender already
    What would a 53xx minus side tanks and bunker but plus tender look like ?
    Can anyone do a line drawing or photoshop ?
    Would it be better with last axle removed and run as a 2-6-0 ?
     
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    .... or just the two chassis, back to back, with a 7'-01/4" diameter boiler (in honour of IKB!) slung between 'em.

    I'll get my coat .....
     
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    It's a 52xx. It would look similar to a 28xx or 2884 Class.
     
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    You mean a 5200? 53XX is a 2-6-0 Tender engine.
    A conversion of 4200s to tender engines with Standard 1 boilers was envisaged at one stage. Here's a drawing of my interpretation of what it might have looked like.
    280-4200astender..jpg
    A conversion of the 42/52 to a 2-6-0 retaining the Standard 4 boiler would be almost exactly a 4300 with smaller wheels.
    260-small wheel-4200based.jpg
     
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    That looks neat, and quite plausible -Leaving it as a 2-6-2 would leave a long way between firebox and tender... and it would have a nice Cab - which is just not right!
     
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    Well, the former might have actually happened 'back in the day', if a freight engine was called in after a last-minute failure on the scheduled passenger engine; the latter, not so much...

    Noel
     
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    The one in-ticket! :)
     
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    Each item authentically presented in its own right.
     
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    lots of confusion on here now, I'm not going to attempt corrections.
     
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    authenticity didn't stop the LMS painting the Claughtons red , and if we were lucky enough to have one that could be the livery debate to end all livery debates .
    when a loco has spent 2/3 of its life in preservation I would suggest authentic is whatever the current owner chooses .
    an 8F in "improved engine green" would look nice
     
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    Just out of interest you put a lot of these interesting what if's on here, are they prepared using the software that I think the GWS or at least a member prepared?

    They are great thanks!
     

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