Class 21 D6122

From memory D821 which was a larger loco than D6319 was sold by BR at the same price. Still a shame D6319 didn't make it in to preservation. Would of look great going up and down a preserved line.

 

This has been repeated many times in many places but never a date is given when they came together, neither is anoriginal source ever quoted. If the identity / cab swap took place in the Spring of 1964 then all the indications are that both locomotives were in Glasgow at that time. If it took place in early Summer 1965 then it would appear one locomotive was at St. Rollock and the other at Inverurie. The further you delve the harder it is to substantiate what has previously been published.

 

I thought the RCTS article was pretty definitive..

if you take the language at face value, rather than trying to read into ulterior motives... it says...

The reader is obviously familiar with D6122.
Similarly the reader is pointing out something everyone is currently wound up on... that D6121 has D6122 at ONE end. (the other could have been done later ?)
The reader is not suggesting a repaint.. he says categorically..cannibalisation... if cannibalisation = paint... then thats the last time you'll ever see me in B&Q.

Why can't people take whats given to them at face value... The RCTS mag is telling you D6121 was carrying a cab from D6122 during 16th-18th May 1964.. therefore it happened shortly before hand.. and that D6121 was on shed at Eastfield, whilst the writer is overtly familiar that D6122 is safely at St Rollox.

The next statement below is just guff.... Ive seen 45407 head to bristol one day and 5 days later be in Scotland... anyone thought the cab swap could have happened at Eastfield and not St Rollox ?.. Maybe D6122 was around as D6121 was without cabs at the time ?
Cab swaps happened routinely... it's a piece of equipment like any other... Identity swaps (not renumbers) are not that common, and undocumented ones even less.

The simpler explanation is the more probable.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/218449265028960/

facebook page for Project 22...in case anyone wanted to right the D6319 wrong

 

The reason why many do not take things at face value is because they do not make sense. For years enthusiasts have commented that steam locomotive disposals as given in the RO, What Happened to Steam and elsewhere did not seem to make sense. We of course now know that a considerable number were fabricated by an RCTS member who made regular RO contributions. Remember, the same person has been responsible for numerous diesel fabrications as well. Many will have seen the copy of a letter he sent, recently published, claiming to have confirmation that 'LION' was scrapped at Smethwick even though at the time it was regularly working the 'Sheffield Pullman'!

ADB968008 might be quite content that what was said in 1964 explains everything. Others are not, that is why they would like to know more. ADB968008 might not be interested in the finer details of D61xx locomotives, others are and is it wrong for these others to question what has been published and seek more information? The 1964 RO comments are contradicted in later publications, were they just a presumption? So what did really happen. We don't know but hopefully one day we will. ADB968008 might not be interested but many others will.

Many in this part of the world were never convinced with the explanations given for what happened at Hillsborough in April 1989. It just didn't make sense knowing what we knew. Of course what we were being told was correct and we were wrong, or where we!

 

The photo was taken by the same gentleman who submitted the Preston sighting so I think you can be fairly sure it is.

 

Hillborough and a D61xx should not be in the same sentence. Thats disgraceful. No one died for a D61xx.

you are correct however, I'm not that bothered about the intricacies of a D61xx. Some think the world is flat, others that Kestrel still exists in Russia, and are still trying to prove it to.
Some Diesel enthusiasts just need a steam equivalent to the 4965/4983 story and grasp round.

 

"Some Diesel enthusiasts just need a steam equivalent to the 4965/4983 story and grasp round."
How about a 'Barnfind NBL Type 2' here: D6332!

 

always be 4983 to me