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Cumbrian Coast Express 2024

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by sgthompson, Jun 1, 2024.

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  1. ssk2400

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    Just a question how do they control the diesel on the back who tells the diesel when to do the work ? how steep is Dalton bank ? i guess you mean the climb out of Dalton towards Ulverston ? or is it the climb from Barrow to Dalton?
     
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    Pretty sure they communicate via walkie talkies but others might know better. Not sure what the gradient is from Barrow via Dalton to the summit at Lindal in Furness as it’s then downhill to Ulverston .
     
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    This may help
    https://www.railwaydata.co.uk/linefiles/route/?ELR=CBC1
     
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    Do put a sock in it.
     
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    AFAIK the climb to Lindal summit is around 1 in 75 in each direction.
     
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    As there was a diesel on the back, should that not have been providing power for the aircon?
     
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    You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment as a non-engineer.
     
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    Thank you. I thought it was quite a steep climb :)
     
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    The Lindal summit is at MP 22. On the Ulverston side the gradient varies in the range 1 in 75 to 1 in 85 for about 2 miles but eases considerably nearer the top. From Dalton Junction at MP 24.5 the 2.5 miles are easier at around 1 in 100 with the occasional short stretch at 1 in 90. It is a very uneven climb and not straight as I recall. That doesn't help. When I had 46115 south from Carlisle with 12 on we kept a pretty steady 21/22 up to Lindal and that was from a similar speed at the junction where we had come around the Barrow avoider. On another occasion with the same loco and only 10 on we went through Barrow and therefore across the junction at around 30. It was a steady 34 slowing to 31 near the top.

    Anyway it's a tricky climb even on the recent trip where the speed at the junction should have been helpful. But the total load would definitely have needed help and clearly that help was pretty 'generous' shall we say for probable reasons that others have explained.
     
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