Current and Proposed New-Builds

Sounds like you are talking about the Decapod.

 

Similar story for the much-derided Hoy 2-6-2 tanks on the L&YR, used for the Liverpool Exchange to Southport commuter (as we'd now call them) trains prior to the start of the electric services, but at the electric timetable.

But it doesn't really advance the case for a P1 very far.

 

I had already considered that so dead that we might as well cut straight to the mandatory thread diversion ...

Tom

 

And that's the most important part of the whole project. The Livery!

 

Well, I think that we should revive the tradition of oiled blue steel. Add a few chromed or stainless boiler bands and other bits to set it off. Is there anything left that is finished in that way, other than guns and razor blades?

 

The burning question there, of course, being "Does it photograph well?"

These days, I've rather more sympathy with the GSR policy than hitherto. i.e. dip it all in battleship grey and s*d 'the lot of em!

 

Photographic Grey, please!

 

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this thread tends to gravitate towards LNER big stuff?

 

Well you can do any permutation of GW engine just by mix-and-match in Didcot, we all know what can go wrong if Bullied is left alone with the colouring pencils and all the big stuff from the LMS is preserved...

 

On a more serious note, Gresley died at the "perfect" moment - some sure-fire winners, plenty of unexpressed promise and before circumstances really curtailed his vision. Then you add in the scrapping luck of Barry, and you create a greater level of gaps (and romance) to drive people to fill them

 

This could well be down to so few LNER types surviving. Bear in mind only 1 LNER engine ended up at Woodham's in Barry. That 1 being the B1 1264.........

 

This is true: if Dai Woodham had been anything like as efficient as say, Cohen's or any other number of scrapyards in the Midlands, East and North there'd be a damn sight less MN/BB/WC around and far less copper-capped stuff too.

 

That may merely reflect the paucity of survivals ... the scrapyards in the NE were horrendously efficient.

 

While this is true to a point, the paucity in LNER locos isn't among 'The Big Stuff'. There is a V2, an A3, an A2, an A1 (new build), and six A4s, four of them in Britain. So what are we building to redress the shortfall in LNER small to medium locos? A P2!

 

Not all doom and gloom - there is a surprisingly good selection of preserved pre-grouping locos that became LNER, including examples of 0-6-0, long-boiler 0-6-0; 0-8-0, 2-4-0; 4-4-0; 4-4-2; 4-2-2; 0-4-0T; 0-6-0T; 0-6-0ST; 0-6-2T; 2-4-2T, 2-2-4T (a weird, one, admittedly) and spanning across NER, GNR, GER, GCR, GNoSR, NBR. Were I an enthusiast of the LNER, I'd be pretty happy with that lot (and would be mounting covert raids to liberate 1275 and 910 ...)

The more modern big stuff - I can take 'em or leave 'em, in all honesty ...

Tom

 

The folks building the G5 and the F5 might feel a little .... overlooked there!

 

No, not really. Cartman had a point, and I concurred. Happily there are those who look at - shall we say - the more practical options, but we still get two hundred ton plus monsters to add to the existing collection.

 

Albeit to be followed by something lighter ....

Were it not for the LNER's museum, I suspect the situation would be worse (and we'd maybe have NO surviving original LBSC tender locos). It seems the chances of most from Tom's list actually steaming again aren't good (unless the Bluebell can get their paws on 737)

One of the factors here, I think, is that so little which made it into the late fifties and sixties escaped the torch. When you look at what survived from the LMS, the biggest LNER gap surely has to be a Thompson L1 ... and looking at the LMS, the survival of Thundersley and the NLR 0-6-0T are near miracles!

GW practise largely fossilised post-Churchward, but even with St.Dai of Barry being based squarely in GW territory, what do we have from the earlier epoch? A couple of saddle tanks, two 4-4-0s and Tiny (not that I'm complaining about their survival).

In my native territory, thank SR concentration on electrification for the late survival of a few superannuated locos and the early arrival of the Bluebell on the scene. Even here, there are some serious gaps.

 

Those of a sensitive disposition should under no circumstances open this 'ere link .... which comprises 1'51" (inevitably preceeded by an advert!) of just the sort of smutty scenes to which @The Green Howards alludes. Consider yourselves warned!:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BBRfULXzg94&ved=2ahUKEwjV5Zva2uHsAhWyqHEKHam_CTQQwqsBMAB6BAgGEAM&usg=AOvVaw2-3xlYkRDGRRH96rXh_dd-

 

Ha,ha. You mean a uncensored double page photo of the locomotive without boiler cladding!