Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by aron33, Aug 15, 2017.
Ah, my bad.
What about a Crosti boilered cab forward...?
Italian Railways Gr 672. As if the look of it wasn't bonkers enough, the preheater is actually in the tender, so the exhaust has to pass from loco to tender - gr chimney is the lump at the back of the tender. Warm water then had to be pumped back to the loco.
Oh, and it's a compound too. But it's Italian, so just to be different both high pressure cylinders are on one side of the loco, and the low pressure ones on the other... Apparently it waddled a bit!
I remember being sad when I read this Manchester Monster was scrapped in the 50s. She was pain in the arse to operate, according to loco crews, but look at the sheer size of her:-
87 feet long is bonkers. I guess someone wanted to make a British Big Boy at some stage...
I wonder how many loops the LNER had that would take that with a full load. They had enough problems with the P1s!
It was designed as a banker for a 4 mile bank, and later used on the Lickey. So loops weren't an issue, it spent its entire life going uphill then downhill then uphill again
The LNER Garratt became well known as the Worsborough Banker, but the concept for it's construction was to speed up the the huge volume of freight traffic over the Pennines through Woodhead Tunnel, this project morphed into the planned and postponed electrification of the route which was finally achieved after the WW2.
Is anyone interested in volunteering to fire it?
The fact that the 'Garratt Giant' was built in 2 weeks is an amazing testament to human craftsmanship.
Nowadays, the average brick-layer can't finish a garden wall in 2 weeks because he's usually got a damn smartphone glued to him.
Surely that would be a mechanical stoker or oil fired?
Yes, the machine is called a shovel...
To be very pedantic, doesn't it need to have several moving parts to be a machine?
It has to have a prime mover. Fireman plus shovel is the fuel transfer machine.
OK. Since its nearly Christmas here is my definitive top 10. Things already having projects mooted or underway not included. Very little from the Big 4 or later because actually it's the Victorian/Edwardian period that is under-represented.
1. GER E4 2-4-0. I'd build a replica rather than disturb the restored one. Not only would it be a good loco for small to medium preserved lines, many of the patterns, castings and so on could then be used to produce a large-wheeled 2-4-0 (T19) in various forms. a 2-2-2 for a pet, , a 2-4-2T (F3 - even more useful and different to the one already under construction) an 0-6-0 (which would need some modification) and even the D13 4-4-0 rebuilds. . I've been fantasising about this particular project for a long time! (And yes, it would be splendid to have a rake of GER carriages to match)
2. L&YR Atlantic (yes I know to pedants it's not an Atlantic) . Perhaps we could find somewhere that would let us see if it can do over the ton.
3. LNWR Problem 2-2-2 late condition - only Victorian challenger to the Castle/A1/A3 for period in front line service.
4. Jones Skye Bogie - brilliant small engine and example of the 'Crewe' front end layout.
5. Stirling no. 92 - 'Fastest on the line'
6. Highland River - best Scottish 4-6-0
7. GSWR Smellie big bogie - IMO the most handsome of the Victorian 4-40's
8 LNWR 3cyl compound 0-8-0 (or a Greater Britain) . Just to see how good or bad they really were.
9 MR Kirtley 0-6-0 (the ones with the upsweep over the cranks) - no double framed 0-6-0's survived.
10 The ultimate Big Chuffer - LNER Garratt (See above!) One could then use the parts created to build a Gresley O2 - had to have something Gresley in there.
I could come up with another 10, but Euromillions is only so much - I'd create a lot of jobs though.
I'd go with an NBR Atlantic, since the only "preserved" one was scrapped, due to the war effort in WW2.
What I am trying to think off is what is least represented in preservation/most historically significant. Clearly the numbers of posters suggesting 10000/10001 suggests that quite a few of us are thinking the same way
It's such a shame that bar Deltic and the Gas Turbine 18000 none of the other prototypes are with us, could you imagine how popular something like say Falcon would be?
Yes there is, The Keighley & worth valley railway have English Electric prototype shunter D0226 Vulcan.
On diesels what about 10201-3? The bogies were the same as a Peak or class 40 and there is a derelict Peak at Shackerstone which could be a basis?
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