Current and Proposed New-Builds

Indeed their is nothing standard about a BR standard MK 1 coach !

 

Has this topic been discussed Here? and Where?
Very interesting

 

Mk1 standard class compartment seating also varied between regions. BR Western and Southern Region which saw heavy loadings for commuting into London seated 8 per compartment, other regions seated 6 per compartment.

 

The later Mark 1s had a different arrangement of window frames, the early ones had the glass more or less flush with the coach side, similar to a Stanier coach, the later ones had raised aluminium window units, which were less prone to corrosion of the body sides

 

And the windows vary in height by about an inch between carriages, much to my irritation when I'm lining out!

 

Considering the turn this thread has taken. Perhaps it might be an idea to start a companion thread about new build rolling stock........

 

It all sounds like various Marks of VW Golf. To those in the "Fan Club", these differences will seem very significant. To everyone else it will be "So?"

Paul H

 

To an extent, but surely you accept the major difference between the wooden and Formica panelling, and that the wooden panelling improves the heritage feel of a Mk1 substantially? As Gary has said, the early wooden panelled ones are very LMSish in appearance.

 

Better but still "Ho Hum". I have mentioned the Bluebell's Maunsell droplight third before. You ought to experience it. Also the same railways Bulleid 1947 composite when it is done.

Paul H

 

Ho Hum to you, and that's fine, but as I said, spend a day sat in a well restored early Mk1 and just listen to the public.

 

Well, I have known them for rather more decades than you have and been underwhelmed by them for all that time. They will be okay to anyone who has not known anything better and I am not talking about luxury vehicles either.

PH

 

@aron33 and everyone else - looking at the Oswestry thread there is a line that is developing but there is one problem - no Cambrian locos survived. So as a hypothetical question if a new build Cambrian loco were to be built for the CHS what should it be?

 

well, I'd venture that I've spent a larger proportion of my life restoring them than you have for what it's worth (and it still doesn't mean I don't appreciate the superb coaches on the IoW, or anywhere else). It seems a bit disingenuous to say that the only people who compliment well restored Mk1s are those who don't know any better, especially when several of the people who have praised our work have revealed themselves as being from the Severn Valley. You don't like Mk1s. I get it - that's fine. But please, stop saying no one else does either, unless they know no better.

 

Looks like a suspicious case of small chuffer syndrome there, Gav!

Tom

 

I know the one you mean, on my last trip to the Bluebell, years ago, I travelled in it and it was a super ride. However, a nice mark 1 is vastly better than, say, a 142 or a 153, and anyone whose rail travel experience is on either of those will think that it’s brilliant.

 

I have been ultra careful not to imply any criticism of any of the work done on these vehicles which, as I have said, have been known to me since they were new or nearly so. However, for a new-build, which is the subject of this thread, there are infinitely more interesting subjects. Anything with a clerestory for example.

C. Hamilton Ellis' railway carriage book is an essential read.

PH

 

Ah, that's different! I'll certainly agree there's little point having Mk1 newbuilds!

 

Now that is progress! Better start looking for sources of wood (and building that carriage shed).

PH

 

I must have missed the proposed mk1 new build project... The reaction is a little bit like a dog that barks at its own farts.