Eastleigh 100 line up of steam trains

If they are being towed they dont need to have a working AWS/TPWS etc

They do need a FTR and a UAT.

 

I don't have a copy of the 'rules' but common sense says that, if they are in light steam (for lubrication purposes) they are capable of moving under their own power and are thus classified as a locomotive. If they are not in steam then they are no different from any other rolling stock (coaches, wagons) which, aren't equipped with all the various safety systems. Presumably, locos being hauled dead would have to have a brake of some sort at the rear, as well. Hasn't it been discussed on another topic that, with a couple of exceptions, there aren't any brake vans left on the National network?

 

I think a POB would cover that requirment.....Dont you just love TLAs

Ian H

 

So, in layman's terms, it won't need any clever electronics but they'll need to check that it's not bust before it leaves. Yes?

Richard

 

Yes, or that there's no immediate risk of it going bust en-route whilst being towed.

 

I spent about a billion years yesterday researching how I could get to the open day, stay the night and get in for under £100 (birthday money).
I thought about travelling upto Doncaster (where my dad lives) and staying the night, then going to crewe and go on the spitfire tour to the open day then return and stay at crewe the night and travel back the morning after. Too expensive
As was going to Birmingham etc.
Then I thought about doing direct and staying at Eastleigh, Too expensive
Then I found by accident that 70013 is doing a Tour from Norwich to the open day!!!!!!!!!!!!! on the Saturday.


so I'll see you there! \/ \/

 

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Please read what i stated earlier...

If they are being towed they dont need to have a working AWS/TPWS etc

They do need a FTR and a UAT.

 

Yes.
That is correct

 

The youtube below shows 2 locos of the same class out on the main line.
73136, the blue one doing the haul, is main line registered and has AWS, TPWS and OTMR as well as a valid UAT certificate. 73210, the Intercity one being hauled, is NOT main line registered, and only has a FTR and a UAT certificate.

The fact that 210s diesel engine is a runner and/or the fact that she can put her shoes down on the juice rail, is of no consequence as she is in effect just a wagon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWAisxJgIs0

 

We should be getting underway with the inspections and paperwork audits for the Swanage exhibits soon. I will endeavour to update progress on this forum as appropriate.

 

I did. If you had quoted the whole of the post, it would be obvious that I was responding to 76079, who had queried your original posting.

 

In August 2006, 850 Lord Nelson was towed in light steam from Eastleigh to the WSR by an EWS diesel, along with her support coach and half a dozen open wagons to provide extra braking force. At that time, she didn't have TPWS nor OTMR (don't know about AWS but I guess probably not).

I can't imagine that a loco owner, TOC nor NR would want to move dead, and therefore unlubricated, locos on the network. They'd have to travel very slowly and with frequent stops to hand-lubricate the motion. Having them in light steam is probably the only practical way of moving them any distance by rail.

 

Well, there is another option, and it was BR's technique for towing condemned locomotives to various scrapyards, and that is to remove the motion. However, this is too difficult, expensive and time-consuming to be a viable alternative, spending hours fiddling with the motion, only to have to take it apart again when they finish at Eastleigh. It's not just a case of taking the motion off and putting it back on again, you'd probably have to re-calibrate it. So light steam is the best solution in the long-term.

Just had the tickets for the event delivered this morning, so I've only the rail journey from Swansea to plan...

 

exactly what was done with Duchess of Hamilton before it went to Crewe works in 2005

 

I will be going to the event, going on the railtour from Norwich behind Oliver Cromwell (was going on the Oliver Cromwell trip Norwich-London in a few Saturdays time then found they had organised this trip to coenside with the Eastleigh 100 event and transferred the tickets) \/

 

If all goes to plan I'll be on this

 

Now that 73096 is out of action for some time will 34007 be available to make appearance at Eastleigh open day. I only ask this question because 850 Lord Nelson will also be at Eastleigh open day. This would then only leave one loco at the MHR. In the MHR time table there should be two steam locos in service.
:-k :-k :-k :-k

 

I was thinking about that aswell. I wonder if they will hire in an engine for say, a fortnight, to cover the locos winding down, being at the event and winding up again?

 

MHR have pulled Wadebridge from Eastleigh Works open day.

 

That's a shame, but understandable in the circumstances.