Flying Scotsman

Ah, so sod all to do with 60103 then.

 

Seeing as the loco change is at York, is there a chance that the train may arrive in platform 5?

I know platform 10 is the usual platform for steam but I gather that's because it's the only platform water can be taken on, something FS will not need at York, having just left the NRM.

 

Any ideas what the rough times are for 60103 tomorrow from York to Newcastle?? I understand the tour arrives in York from kings cross about 12:20. Leaving York about 16:30. Can Anybody help here??

 

That's the charter in connection with the GBRf naming at the NRM.

 

well it looks like we need to return to the days before RTT, when the essentials for filming were patience, a good guess and a camp stool on the platform. Now assuming we the more experienced are all fairly sensible with our trespass risk and track safety, is there any way to set up a closed list to share info?

 

this secrecy is frankly ridiculous. The only reason there was a huge turnout last time was because of continual hype building to a crescendo. Thats been and gone now, the press have moved on, its yesterdays chip wrappers.

 

Its frankly ridiculous because you inquisitive southerners could not keep away from the lineside.

Well done, you have spoilt it for the rest of us, now get your cracket, camping stove, and sarnies out, and hope somebody gives you a bit of gen.

 

From my perspective, I'd hardly call St Neots 'southern', more like Oop North - ain't our fault the country bumpkins in Cambridgeshire decided to spoil the moment.

Same old story, the minority spoil it for the majority!

So the timings for FS have been withdrawn, I for one am not surprised as she is railway 'Royalty' & you never see timings for the Royal train whizzing her Maj about the country, don't ever hear an outcry about that!......

Oh, and pray tell, just how are you going to gag local media from shouting it from the rooftops when they know FS is passing through their patch?............................

 

It's old news now Scotsman has come and gone so I doubt if the local press are now interested. Not surprised at NR, another massive overreaction that only the British can do. The very keen ones will now go to the lineside early to make sure and have even more time to trespass.

 

It's hit the press

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...edule-kept-secret-deter-trainspotters-on-line

 

You were saying....................

 

Finally got round to seeing 60103 at York on Saturday. Looking forward t seeing her in steam soon. 16 years ago this month was the last time I saw her in steam (and so far only time).

 

I had to laugh. Just been looking at twitter. NRM tweeted that 60103 returns to action tomorrow and they want people to stay safe when viewing her pass by. They will have trouble viewing her if they don't know what time the trip is running.

What's really worrying about the Guardian report is that it says all of her future trips on the ML will have the timings kept secret.
So if we wanted to book a future trip would we not know what the timings are until getting the tickets? How can anyone book when they don't know what time the train is going to leave?

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Someone has listed tomorrow's outward times on Facebook:

"scotsman from york
Train 1Z62 runs TO from 10/05/16 to 10/05/16
Type STP Diesel Loco Timed at 095mph
Operator WR WEST COAST RAILWAY COMPANY (22244008)

London Kings Cross 0725
Belle Isle 0727
Holloway Sth. Jn. 0728
Finsbury Park 0731
Alexandra Palace 0736
Gordon Hill 0748
Hertford North 0802-0805
Langley Jn 0816
Stevenage 0820
Hitchin 0827-0830
Sandy 0841
Huntingdon 0856-0859
Holme Jn. 0911
Fletton Jn. 0916
Peterborough 0920
Helpston Jn. 0926
Tallington Jn. 0931
Stoke Jn. 0946
Grantham 0951
Claypole Loop 0958
Newark North Gate 1005
Newark F.C. 1006
Retford 1020-1022
Babworth Loop 1025-1032
Loversall Carr Jn 1044
Doncaster 1047
Shaftholme Jn 1052
Temple Hirst Jn. 1059
Hambleton North Jn 1103
Colton Jn 1109
Colton North Jn 1111
York Holgate Siding (Flhh) 1120-1155
York 1158-1203
Skelton Jn. (York) 1206
Tollerton Jn 1215
Thirsk 1228
Longlands Jn 1235
Northallerton 1236
Darlington 1250
Ferryhill Sth. Jn. 1304
Tursdale Jn 1310-1334
Durham 1343-1346
Birtley Jn 1400
King Edward Bridge S. Jn 1405
Newcastle 1409"

Edit: they have now listed returns too.

"Train 1Z64 runs TO from 10/05/16 to 10/05/16
Type STP Diesel Loco Timed at 075mph
Operator WR WEST COAST RAILWAY COMPANY (22244008)

Newcastle 1544
King Edward Bridge S. Jn 1548
Birtley Jn 1554
Durham Sig Ty358 1606-1624
Durham 1625-1628
Tursdale Jn 1640
Ferryhill Sth. Jn. 1645-1705
Darlington 1720
Northallerton 1733
Longlands Jn 1734
Thirsk 1741
Tollerton Jn 1754
Skelton Jn. (York) 1810
York 1815-1857
Colton Jn 1903
Church Fenton 1909
Milford Jn. 1916
Ferrybridge North Jn 1923
Knottingley West Jn 1924
Knottingley South Jn 1925
Haywood Jn 1936
Shaftholme Jn 1940-1942
Doncaster 1951
Potteric Carr Jn. 1954
Black Carr Jn (Doncaster) 1954
Loversall Carr Jn 2010
Retford 2022-2031
Newark F.C. 2046
Newark North Gate 2048-2056
Claypole Loop 2103
Grantham 2115
Stoke Jn. 2121
Tallington Jn. 2133
Peterborough 2142-2150
Connington South Jn 2200
Huntingdon 2209-2212
Sandy 2227
Hitchin 2240-2242
Stevenage 2248
Langley Jn 2249
Hertford North 2301-2304
Gordon Hill 2315
Alexandra Palace 2321
Finsbury Park 2327-2334
Holloway Sth. Jn. 2338
Belle Isle 2340
London Kings Cross 2342"

 

Bet that gets taken down!

 

whats a cracket?

 

Of course its hit the press, ye gods some people have no idea. I can see the meeting now.
"We need to keep people away from the line side, and dampen down the hype - any ideas?"
"Well CJ, we could keep the trips a secret"
"Good idea Perrin, I'll tell the press"

 

So had 60103's February run been York - Newcastle, you're telling me that all the God fearing northerners would have stayed on the right side of the fence? Don't think so. Stupidity knows no geographical bounds.

 

the secret of course is to check out the promoters web sites for trips some time in the future, they all have a rough time slots, make a note of them and compare them to similar past non FS trips. I can pin all of them down to an hour. The surrey hills one will be spectacularly easy.

 

Don't you just love social media, its the perfect example of a thin paper bag trying to keep the cat in