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Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by AndrewT, Jul 17, 2012.

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    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Always assuming the going is firm, all track joints are obliging and no rotter has gone and left unannounced detonators on the railhead.
     
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    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Sounds like you speak from experience. I hope no one is thinking of placing some dets, though.
     
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    None placed today despite a failure in section (Blanche dropped a plug at Plas Halt and had to be rescued by Upnor Castle) so perhaps dets aren't in their rulebook.
     
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    I'm surprised that any heritage railway still uses dets. In general lines are single track and, with few exceptions, limited to 10 mph where they are double in station limits so emergency protection is unnecessary and assistance protection can be done simply with a man with a red flag. They are very much frowned upon by the ORR and the hoops that you now have to jump through to store and dispose of them are relatively onerous. Even on the GCR, I'm sure that a robust risk assessment would come down against using them.
     
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    The FR doesn't use or have any detonators, and there isn't any provision for them in the rule book. A failed train would be protected by a red flag or lamp.
    Tim
     
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    Not with that attitude! Though I'd wager an ALCO WW1 loco rolls better on the level than a plane.
     
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    When it comes to pulling the plane vs the loco, I'd not care to speculate as to which would put up more of a fight, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Mountaineer isn't unduly aerodynamic! :)
     
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    What speed are you intending to pull it at? :eek:
     
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    I dunno, all those sticky-out bits may generate a lot of downforce...
     
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    My dear chap, I have no intention whatever of pulling either a loco or a plane .... :Pompus:
     
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    But it's all in a good cause...
     
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    Tell that to the prolapsed disk lurking in my lumber spine. In my books, the only good thing to be said for getting older is that it's better than the alternative. :(
     
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    What you really need is 150 year 11's........
    35 Steam Roller Pull Castle Rushen Year 11 a.jpg
    Looking for something different for a sponsored event my Yr.11's challenged my steamroller to a tug-of-war so on the appointed day 'Sir' came to work on his engine (one lad acted as steersman .... but don't tell IoM Constabulary!) I let the kids win, they raised a few hundred quid for charity and got their picture in the paper. All good fun.
    Apologies for the thread drift.
    Ray.
     
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    I’m glad to have discovered a use for 150 year 11s. As parent of a year 13 and a year 10, year 11s en masse have always struck me as a dangerous proposition!


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    Looks like the C2 group had an incredible August with the locomotive now rewheeled, outside motion added and been dragged around Boston Lodge to see how it rolls. I'm impressed what with it being 8 coupled and all. Work continues on the turbo generator for the electrics and work is starting to focus on the boiler. This I'm looking forward to seeing out on the line as much if not more than Mountaineer.

    http://c2project.org/index.php?page=news&sp=2
     
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    Wow .... that has to be the biggest single project update since ..... ????

    Amidst what looked like some spectacular understatement concerning bearings, I picked up on what I reckon is the first technological advance involving baths of boiling oil since the introduction of gunpowder. Some fine lateral thinking there.

    Did anyone familiar with the finer points of piston design spot the rather interesting "Looking at the Polish drawings of the piston rings, a couple of unusual features were spotted. Most interestingly, there is a thin metal plate shown screwed into the ring grooves at the bottom of the piston. After some head scratching, Paul and Dave realised that this was to keep the piston central in the cylinder bore (normally the clearances between the piston and rings would allow the piston to drop a little)."? This sounds quite unlike anything I've heard of before.

    Some superb progress.
     
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    Looks like it has actually been rewheeled for a while but it wasn't with motion. I'm not sure what to make of the plate in the piston though.
     
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    Both loco and tender were re-wheeled in 2018. The brake gear had to be finished before the motion starts going on so that has been the main focus. Covid, illness and new family's hampered progress but they are getting the momentum back now.

    The old boiler is only being fitted to the frames to make sure are no unforseen problems before the new boiler design is finalised.

    Tim
     
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