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Isle Of Man Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by David Bigcheeseplant, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Selsig

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    My thought last night was that one loco might end up in Peel at the House of Mannanin (if they can find space) as a reminder of what the site was.

    John
     
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    Me too, is there a way we can see how it going
     
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    aah, good point, and isn’t there a transport museum in Jurby as well
     
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    Presumably the iomsrsa will keep everyone well informed through their journal and various social media platforms.
     
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    Some interesting points there, Chris. Space in Port Erin Museum is very tight and whilst a third loco in there would be very nice something else would have to come out - not an easy decision. It must be remembered that, between 1978 and 2012, Nos. 5,8 & 9 weren't owned by IoM Rlys but by The IoM Rly Society/IoM Rly & Tramway Preservation Society (currently The 3' Gauge Society) without any restoration work being done on 5 or 9 and were merely stored (f.o.c) on IMR property. This was when most of the deterioration took place. Peveril was in better external condition having already had a cosmetic restoration some years ago and has been in the museum since then. As regards 5 & 9 several parts are missing and some of the platework is in poor condition. After decontamination they were grit blasted and primed by a contractor and I would be concerned that grit may have migrated onto bearing surfaces. If it were down to me I'd want to see all the bearings stripped and examined before any further movement took place.
    No.8 Fenella, whose 10 yearly fell due at the end of the 2020 season, requires a full bottom end rebuild including new cylinders and is at the end of the current overhaul queue. Mr. L once stated that he wanted one small boilered loco to be kept in the operating pool but since then attention seems to have been concentrated on No.16 instead. It was even suggested that No.8's refurbished boiler could be placed on No.9's chassis which was overhauled not long before its boiler failed but this is, now, AFAIK, not going to happen. Hope this answers your questions and you are able to come and see us this year.
    Ray.
     
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    Of course, Sod's Law dictates what's been grit blasted will contain where it osn't wanted, that's a given!

    Interesting thoughts on a possible No.81/2, as I'd thought Douglas was regarded as something of a 'sacred cow'.

    Re: 'small engines', compared with Mannin, they all are!
     
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    Thanks for the response Ray, really interesting with regards to restorations of the engines, it's a shame that 5, 8 & 9 deteriotated so bad whilst not under IMR ownership, but I suppose there back now and they are getting looked after. Love the idea of a refurbed boiler going into No.9, would be interesting to see if this is revisited in the future. It's great that so much is being done to not only the serviceable fleet but also the non-servicable fleet. it really is exciting times and watch this space right.

    Thanks I would love to get over and visit at some point again, if not this year, I think next year would be the one not to miss.

    On another note, when 5,7,8 & 9 where sold, what actually happened with the original nameplates as I see the IOMSRSA had purchased one original for Mona. I thought if they had been sold with the locos they would have been returned with them. I remember speaking with Colin and he said that most nameplates were kept in a safe of some sort when they weren't on the locos
     
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    AFAIK the nameplates were sold with the locos in 1978. Whilst no.8's were on the loco when it returned to IoM Rlys ownership in 2012 the others were retained by the IoM Rly Soc'y/IoMR&TPS and at least one surfaced at auction a year or two ago. Whether the plate from Mona is one from an auction or one that had been retained by Mr.Hendry I have no idea.
    Ray.
     
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    thanks Ray, was just wondering to be honest. appreciate your response , Chris
     
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    No8’s plates are replicas Ray afaik
     
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    Details of the 2022 timetables and events weekends are now available on the @hrviom Facebook page
     

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    Followers of the Heritage Railways Volunteers Facebook page may have seen our sub-page https://www.facebook.com/iomr150/ which has been created as part of the build up to IMR 150 next year. Recent posts describe the historical development of the IMR with some interesting early photos. As plans are being made for 2023 and there is little new news from the railway it might be opportune to look back at some previous celebrations.
    The first shows IMR No.4 Loch 'under the wires' at Laxey while running on the MER as part of the Year of Railways in 1993.
    54 No 4 at Laxey May 1993 a.jpg
    The next pair show MNR No.4 leaving the Bungalow on a test train prior to public running over the SMR (for which a 3rd rail was laid) up to the Summit as part of the SMR centenary celebrations in 1995. Caley was originally used by the contractors building the Snaefell Mountain Railway to take materials from Laxey to the Summit.
    77 No 15 leaving Bungalow spring 1995a.jpg 78 No 15 climbing Snaefell spring 1995a.jpg
    IMR 125 in 1998 celebrated the opening of the Peel line in 1873. A short length of portable track was laid on the site of Peel station, now a boatyard, where IMR No.1 Sutherland gave footplate rides to the public. For IMR 125 No.1 borrowed the, then, newly overhauled boiler destined for No.8 Fenella. No.1 is now star exhibit in Port Erin Railway museum which re-opens as services recommence for 2022 on 4th March.
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    Cheers,
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    Third loco tight? They managed 1, 15 & 16 plus the cleminson, and the various Royal Coaches, directors, goods stock in the past...
     
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    Different layout then.
     
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    Am I right in thinking that when Fenella was in the museum there was 4 locos at the same time?
     
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    Yes, but that was only possible because the royal coach was removed for a short time
     
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    Thanks I seen a pic on Facebook in the last week or so of her in the museum
     
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    Yes, I posted that. I cleaned up Fenella to go into the museum when the Royal coach was taken out. Did it in between trains in section in the old shed at Port Erin during the time I was station master. think it took about two weeks. The loco was in a shocking state I’ll try and find a couple of before and after pics
     
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    brill, will look forward to seeing them, what years where you station master, i bet i have spoken to you in the 80 as a kid when i visited with my mum and dad, we always used to wait for trains arriving to get pics, i knew dave who was a driver then station master at douglas really well, in fact i have a pic with him and me with loch at port erin station
     

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