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Isle of Wight Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Freshwater, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. Nick C

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    However she's an ex-island loco so should have one. Martello's was, as mentioned above, fitted in BR days, having been removed from one of her classmates on scrapping, presumably to get the extra capacity for summer Saturday Hayling island turns.
     
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    does anyone know what ex island terrier she got it off as the ones with an extended bunker were preferred to the original fitted ones because of the extra capacity and i can't recall any ex island terriers being scrapped after the last two In the late 40's early 50's. that were cut up at Eastleigh, almost as soon as they were returned to the mainland.
     
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    I believe from 32677 (ex-W13 Carisbrooke).

    Tom
     
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    Possibly i googled the cutting dates, and that's the only ex island terrier cut up in the 1960's the others were cut in 1949
    That does give an interesting what if , Imagine that at some time in the future, all the former island terriers were to be assembled at Havenstreet for a terrier gala, all painted in Southern livery with their Island numbers and names, Could 662, mascaraed as W13?
     
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    Surely enough for the start of a new build Terrier project ;) (Afterall, with all these services to Ventor, Cowes etc starting soon the line will be short of motive power)
     
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    I'd be interested to know more about this, if anyone has more info? I could understand if it has been fitted with a later air brake control that had handles for loco and train separately, but these were not common in this country (and she would have carried the LBSC gear which would have been more freely available)
     
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    It's 50 years ago today that the Wight Locomotive Society moved everything it owned from Newport to Havenstreet - the Isle of Wight Steam Railway was born!

    Following the end of steam in December 1966, all the old steam engines, carriages and wagons were broken up, except for the few precious items saved for preservation by the Wight Locomotive Society, the forerunner of the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. After four years of storage at the closed Newport Station, the Isle of Wight Steam Railway was founded on Sunday 24th January 1971 when W24 Calbourne hauled an assortment of rolling stock and equipment to the then semi-derelict station at Havenstreet to begin their new life.

    Sadly the national lockdown has meant the cancellation of a planned event at Havenstreet. We're therefore inviting everyone to join us online!

    Watch the IWSR webcam at 11am on Sunday 24th January to see W24 Calbourne undergo her final steam test before her forthcoming boiler exam. She'll be moving around the station for the first time since her recent overhaul.

    We'll post pictures and video from the day on the railway's Facebook page and website.
     
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    When did kings and Jolcliffe finish their scrapping operations at Newport? i would imagine the site was cleared by the time 24 was transfered and unloaded, I can remember in an early IW steam railway news it mentioned that such was the debris left from the cutting operations, that the rails had to be dug out before 24 could be unloaded, What made the society decide to go for Havenstreet to Wotton, and to secure the track bed as far as Small brook, and not to go Cowes to Newport, with a new station in the Freshwater yard? if it was known that the station site would become a part of the Newport ring road.
     
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    Inevitably the evolution of the IWSR is a long and complicated story. Some, but probably not all, of the answers can be found on our website - the 'How it all began' page.
     
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    Thanks for the details of 24th January 1971, sad they could not have kept Newport station.
     
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    Great to see W24 back in action, and no longer in drab BR black.
     
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    Liking the first bit, but with variety being the spice of life, I'd be happy to see W24 in steam in any livery, from (with original bunker) the LSW colours (and number) which the first transferred O2s certainly arrived wearing*, all the way through to BR Black which, so long as it's clean, I find a most attractive livery on many classes.

    *honestly dunno if W24 ever ran on the IoW in this guise, but it's LSW number was 209.
     
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    I believe you can only have 206 and 211 in LSWR livery but fitted with air brakes. They became W19 and W20 in February 1924. All the subsequent O2s were I believe painted into SR livery by time they were adapted for IoW service.

    Large bunkers started to appear in 1932.

    I casually mentioned on an IoW Facebook group that I thought the O2s were far more handsome as delivered by Adams, and the air brake equipment and large bunkers disfigured them. I think my posts are still being moderated two years later ... ;)

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    You didn't happen to also mention your disliking for the Terriers' IoW style extended coal bunker too did you Tom? Saying that as well as your words against the O2s IoW look must not make you the most popular in the IoWSR circles, am I right? ;)

    Personally I'm of the opposite camp actually, I prefer IoW's extended bunker style for the Terriers then the mainland equivalent, which always seemed more so a cheap afterthought to me. Not to mention less useful an alternative.
     
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    Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder, and I fully appreciate the operational benefit of increased coal capacity - I just happen to think they looked better as originally built (and same goes for Terriers, FWIW ...)

    There are relatively few locomotives I can think of that benefitted aesthetically from the attentions of later rebuilding - Wainwright's attention to Stirling locomotives being the exception that proves the rule. Drummond managed the double whammy on Adams' locos of detracting from them both in looks and in performance.

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    Not relevant to the IoW, and deeply controversial, but visually I would put the Bulleid detunes in that category.


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    +1
     
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    :eek: How dare you!! :mad: Get out of here, for SHAME!! :Hissyfit: Not really. :p

    Heh, but seriously I can understand that, the originals are the more striking and handsome of the two in my opinion.
     
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    Very true, and I would agree with you there Tom, I can't really think of many examples of locomotives that looked or indeed performed all that better then how they originally were. If any.

    That said Drummond did design a few good looking machines that were his own, the M7s and T9s being prime examples. But these were exceptions in truth, for lords above were his 2-6-0s ugly ducklings...
     

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