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Isle of Wight Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Freshwater, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. torgormaig

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    .....or a regular commuter trying to get home:).

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    I suspect the reason he suggested the Bluebell is that he is thinking of evening runs to Victoria or London Bridge with the Mets.
     
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    Yes, that's exactly the kind of thing I had in mind. Keep her as W2 most of the time but perhaps repaint her into LBSCR livery, with original name and number, for the last year of the boiler ticket. We've seen plenty of other examples of engines being repainted at the end of their ticket, usually with financial support from photo-charter organisers, and it would be nice to think that something similar could be done here. Admittedly, the boiler would not be quite right for the original Stroudley livery but it would be no more inauthentic than Stepney's combination of Stroudley livery with A1x boiler, which it has carried for most of its preservation life without any major complaints. (Or, for that matter, 4472 running as an A3 in pre-war apple green; 3440 running in pre-1914 GWR green but with top-feed boiler, etc.)

    Come on now; an E1 in full Stroudley livery - surely that's such a mouth-watering prospect that we can overlook a few minor niggles like the position of the dome?! ;):p
     
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    Apologies a clear oversight on my part, I was under the impression that only Knowle had dual brakes installed, though having been reminded just now I really should have accounted for Martello as well.

    It could be said also that though neither will be running, that doesn't mean Stepney and Boxhill can't particpate in some form, perhaps at least for brief line up of all the surviving Terrier. Could get Waddon in on the action too, but I don't want to stray too much down the WIBN path... Can't imagine it be cheap to bring Waddon over.

    Though that said I have heard rumblings in the past that the Canadian Railway Museum are considering getting rid of items that don't have much relevance and connection to the country and it's railway history, which Waddon admittedly does seem to fall into as besides being gifted to the country doesn't actually have any connection to it.

    Always seemed a little odd if not random to me that, gifting Canada with a Terrier of all engines to pick. Perhaps just seemed most convenient an steam engine to send given it's diminutive size?

    I was actually aware that the IOW pair were air brake only Paul, hence why I suggested they most likely wouldn't be able to participate if the gathering happened on the mainland, as there is far more abundance of vacuum operated stock on the mainland for the Terriers then air braked ones. Certainly that are also appropriate period vintage rolling stock.

    Admittedly I was not aware of the grades of the IoWSR though, quite a challenge for the Terriers to tackle by the sounds of things. Makes those small old little engines all the more impressive to me I'd say.
     
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    I remember seeing DS680 (654) and G6 DS682 on Eastleigh shed after withdrawal.
    Whaddon could easily have ended up being reduced to scrap metal like the G6.
     
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    Haven’t those at Barrow Hill offered to provide a kennel to a few Terriers for a celebration? Know it’s off region but it would be a nice setting
     
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    Actualy i'm beinglevel headed for once, Hold any celebration at the Bluebell, static engines can be either in the yard at SP, or in one of the platform roads at HK active engines can be in use, Some time in the future, an Island event, involving all the former Island engines, can be arranged at Havenstreet there is i believe 4 former island terriers plus 1 that wasn't, but acquired the IOW BUNKER
     
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    That's the first time I've heard either Tenterden Bank of the 1:66 out of Haven Street described as "not too strenuous"! ;)

    It's a mouthwatering notion. Hope it happens.
     
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    I should add for completeness that we have our stretches of 1:55, though probably of more significance than the peak is the length that 1:75 or steeper is sustained :)

    Tom
     
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    Loving the speculation.

    You will have to wait until September for the announcement but there is a special and spectacular start to Terrier 150 year in prospect for April...
     
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    It must be the public launch of the new build Terrier project... :)
     
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    There seem to be differing opinions about whether the CNRM would ever de-acquisition "Waddon" but has anyone ever considered the option of asking them to place it with one interested parties here on long term loan? It could then fulfil a more useful role than it currently does by acting as an Ambassador for the CNRM.
     
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    Ha ha! Good guess but no.

    If I could time travel, a trip back to ca. 1905 when a number of Terriers met the scrap man, would be an entertaining prospect.

    Robin
     
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    My dear chap, that's just plain silly. What with 10 of Mr Stroudley's magnificent little beasties still in existence, it's obviously got to be one of their Highland Railway antecedents (3 locos, built at Lochgorm 1869-74, went extinct 1932) ... but (Ssh!) don't tell anyone, or it'd spoil the surprise! :Pompus:

    Of course, (AFAIK) it's not, but for those unfamiliar with these 'Proto-Terriers', here's a piccie:

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    [Image courtesy alamy.com]
     
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    It’s just small chufferitus! ;)
     
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    The special occation , in April is W11 and 8, being hired by Island line, with the 4wheeler rake, to run special " steam on Island line " tours on 1st of April, to celebrate the re opening of the Ryde to Shanklin line, Trains to run double headed Ryde St Johns to Sandown, then topped and tailed Sandown to Shanklin, and St Johns to Pier head and return, :D
     
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    Can someone tell us about the wheels?
     
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    Beyond the fact they looked a tad odd to me too (for some reason, they've always put me in mind of a drilled through version of Fletcher-Jennings' practice), 'fraid I'm stumped too. Perhaps it was to win a bit more adhesive weight? Certainly, Col.Stephens specified heavier wheels on a small WC&P 0-6-0st loco, one of his rare new purchases, for that reason.
     
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    Caked up with muck?
     
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    Well, they are round and quite small …

    Campbell-Cornwall notes “the wheels were solid cast iron affairs with spokes of ‘T’ section” but doesn’t make any other comment as to why.

    In comparison with a Terrier as built, they were dimensionally very similar, with the same, or very similar, wheelbase, overall length, weight etc. The two main differences are smaller wheels (originally 3’7” on a Lochgorm tank; 3’11” as built on a Terrier) and a rather larger firebox on a Lochgorm tank - notably 12.5sq ft of grate area vs 10.3sq ft on a Terrier.

    The one in @30854 photo was the last of the three built, completed in 1874 after Stroudley’s departure. (The first was built in 1869, about three years before the first batch of Terriers).

    Tom
     
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