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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Eightpot, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Eightpot

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    That Woodham Bros premises were located in Yorkshire rather than South Wales, and their working practice the same, i.e. chopping up wagons rather than locos, and still prepared to sell locos. As a result, which loco classes and quantities would have been rescued for preservation, and which not?
     
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    Might have saved the A1 trust a load of hassle ! KWVR may not have had to import a 2-8-0 Dub dee!
     
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    We'd still get people wanting to build a Grange or a County though... ](*,) #-o
     
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    I imagine there'd be heaps of ex-LNER pacifics kicking about the place, much akin to Bulleids now.

    Would be interesting regarding how Didcot would have faired though.
     
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    just be grateful to Almighty Dog that it didnt happen....
     
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    A few more B1s instead of Black 5s would have been good, another V2 or two, more Fairburn tanks, Flying pigs, J27s, Q6s and perhaps an L1 or two in place of the ubiquitous standard 4 tank or GW large prairie. Sounds good to me!
     
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    noooooooo! someone send me some smelling salts...
     
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    A pair of L1s would be very welcome, don't you agree Mr. Maunsell? :smt001
     
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    Sureley very little would have been se=aved as your typical yorkshireman, seeing his beer money tied up in scrap, would have chopped the lot by the early 1970!
    Right, see you all later, i'm off before I get shot.
     
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    greedy northerners.....wouldnt one do?
     
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    One would certainly be better than what we have now, which is precisely 0 of your namesake's 2-cylinder 4-4-0s, whether they be members of class L1, or the earlier D1 and E1 rebuilds. All three were powerful and reliable classes, yet none were saved. This would be one of my first choices for a new build project "if I won the lottery"...and if any drawings survive.

    Oh, there's a northern L1 class? :smt002
     
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    Gresley 02's instead of Churchward 28xx .......
     
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    What the hell has that got to do with anything ? bit of pot calling the kettle black considering the LNER mob is busy frothing over Tornado currently.

    As someone earlier on said B1's would be as common as muck, not suite so sure more A1's and such large passenger types would of survived though given freight and mixed traffic types were more usefull towards the end, using LMS types for comparison, compare 18 Black 5's with 3 Duchess's, a few more Q6's & J27's you could add to that.
     
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    What exactly are you getting at??? I'm interested in this one!!
     
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    Just intrigued by the possibilities: J6, O2, V1/V3, more V2s and A3s. Think the greatly over-rated GW stuff would be a bit thin on the ground, though.
     
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    Although it should be noted that Woodhams survivors were not all bought at the end of steam, several of them were in the yard for a number of years up to 1968.
     
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    Granted but using Woodhams as an example, the amount of Castles that made it out can be counted on one hand and NO Kings would had they reached their intended final destination.
     
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    Which is why I quoted the L1s - I don't think any surviverd byond 1964/5. someone else has mentioned V!/3s - they went even earlier

    I believe a B16/3 survived quite late on at Drapers, as a result of a failed preservation attempt, and J38s lasted till about 1936 in Scotland. Apart from the B1s, K1s Q6s and J27s plusd a few V2s and A4s, not many LNER-designed engines lasted beyond 1965.
     
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    most of them had been in there a good while, seeing as most of them were GWR and WR based which were was the first region to dieselise.
     
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    we'd have sidings full of rusting lner engines and appeals to rebuild a Hall as well as a grange and a county
     

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