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Kettering Furnaces No. 4

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by gwernol, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. gwernol

    gwernol New Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm still working on my article about the narrow gauge ironstone railways of the East Midlands. I have a nice set of photos of Kettering Furnaces, but I have one missing piece. I don't recall ever seeing a photograph of "Kettering Furnaces No. 4" - the Black, Hawthorn 0-4-0ST (w/n 893 of 1887) which was scrapped in 1927. It was apparently a smaller version of the other two Black, Hawthorn locos at Kettering, but it seems to have escaped the camera.

    Has anyone ever seen a photo of it?

    Thanks,

    Dan
     
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    Dan

    Did you get any luck with photos of Black Hawthorn number 4, I have had a similar problem ( one of my future books in on the Kettering Furnaces system with the Moseley Narrow Gauge Railway Trust).

    I intend producing scale drawings of all the locos (NG & STD Gauge) so will let you know if I ever find one too, I have tried NGRS library more recently and the IRS library in the past, but several years ago.

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    Paul
     
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    No, I've not been able to find one. I suspect it escaped the cameras.

    Dan
     
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    You might want to try the Ken Nunn collection he went to these railways in the 30's so there might be one, I've always been sceptical that it was different to No3, it just doesn't add up unless perhaps it was purchased second hand. No 6 was. That's why you can see slight differences in the cabs on numbers 7 and 8.

    Graham
     
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    Hi Graham. No. 4 was indeed purchased second hand. More details in my upcoming article, but: No. 4 had originally been shown by Black, Hawthorn at the “Jubilee of Industrial Progress” exhibition in Newcastle where it bore the name “Yum, Yum” though this was changed after its arrival at Kettering. I also go into details on the cab differences between the Manning Wardle locos and No.6's previous life (and its connection to Zimbabwe!). Thanks for the pointer on the Ken Nunn collection, very useful.

    Dan
     
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