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Lifting the original FR line at Dduallt?

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  1. GHWood

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    I was reading the recent colour 'Past & Present' book about the Ffestiniog Railway the other night which got me wondering whether anyone knows exactly when the old FR line was lifted and the point taken out (it just says 'in the 1980s' in the book). Similarly, what was the last train to run over the old line? Did anything run up to the tunnel once the deviation was opened? No particular reason for wanting to know - just curious!
     
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    It would have been lifted when the site was cleared after the deviation was opened, so after 1977/8 say; there wasn't a last train, I don't think anyone appreciated the significance. The abandonment order was obtained when someone realised that it was needed before the land could be transferred to the owner of the adjacent property as required by the Light Railway Order. (I saw, and photographed, the notice about the abandonment order taped to the door of the Tan y Bwlch station building.)
    Peter Johnson
     
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    Thanks for the info so far. From other books, I've narrowed it down to between 1983 and 1987!
     
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    Could someone post the full title of this book ? I've looked on Amazon without success, so would guess it's quite new ?

    Thank you
     
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    According to "The Oxford Companion to British Railway History" the FR services to Blaenau Festiniog were restored in 1982 after 'The Deviation' was built.
     
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    Sadly that doesn't help matters.

    The OP poses an interesting question. I can't recall reading anywhere about the last train movements on the old line at Dduallt and can't recall seeing any photographs of trains at Tunnel South except the infamous shots of the Simplex in the mid-1950s with AGW and co. My guess is that if Peter Johnson doesn't know then it's probably not been recorded anywhere.
     
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    There's a picture in the 'Ffestiniog in the 50s' book of 'Prince' at Tunnel South with two coaches in December 1958 but I haven't seen anything later in a book. Did trains run up there when the 'Tunnel Mess' was built there?
     
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    I thought I would try a different approach, when was the power station comissioned. The answer to when did the last train run must therefore be pre 1963.
     
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    January 1957 was the last known train through the tunnel before it was blocked later the same year. However the old route from Dduallt to the tunnel mouth remained in place and occasionally in use at least until completion of the deviation.
     
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    Purely by chance, I was flicking through volume 2 of Peter Johnson's 'Immortal Rails' history of the FR the other day and came across the following on page 159:

    'A link with the past was lost over the Christmas holiday when lifting the line between Dduallt and the old Moelwyn tunnel was completed.'

    From the surrounding text, that looks to be in reference to Christmas 1979.

    Cheers.

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