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Llangollen shed newsy news

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Broomhalla, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. 6880rules

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    Out of interest......who does roll tapered barrels ?

    All i know of is "Anglering" and "Deepdale" both in Tipton that might have the capacity
     
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    Barnshaws at Oldbury (W. Midlands) and Manchester can roll taper barrels.
    All the companies mentioned can roll a barrel of equal taper about the centerline. None can roll a barrel of unequal taper as fitted to 80072. The bottom of the taper barrel on the 80XXXs and the boiler centreline are parallel. Again, because of company confidentiality I cannot say how 80072's taper barrel was made. However, the new taper barrel for 80097 is being rolled as an equal taper, but the length of the barrel will be longer than required. Then both the front and back of the barrel will be cut at 90 degrees to the bottom of the taper, thus giving the correct length and unequal taper profile.
     
  3. Ian Riley

    Ian Riley Part of the furniture Loco Owner

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    #-o ...read-up, if you think about it, the profiled development can be rolled as an equal taper, the allowance being made at the ends of it, in the development, to be used as a flat-bottom taper section.....use the professionals!
     
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    #-o ...read-up, if you think about it, the profiled development can be rolled as an equal taper, the allowance being made at the ends of it, in the development, to be used as a flat-bottom taper section.....use the professionals![/quote:3ttafn67]

    Sounds like a fcuker of a job. Lots of head scratching required no doubt!.

    As a point of interest, 'Barnshaws' and 'Angle-ring' have family connections.

    'WYCO Tube' just down the road from Deepdales made mine. But it was only tiddler, parallel and for £326 not worth the aggro of rolling it and getting it welded myself.
     
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    I don't think so! Think about it. The bottom of the barrel should be effectively horizontal but that's not what you've said. The only difference between a symmetrically coned barrel and an assymetrically coned one is the development of the plate before rolling.
     
  6. Ian Riley

    Ian Riley Part of the furniture Loco Owner

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    Thankyou Steve, thats what I was trying to say!.... #-o
     
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    For those of a mathematical bent, its a truncated cone but not a frustrum of a cone, since according to http://chestofbooks.com/crafts/mechanic ... strum.html , a frustrum of a cone is the part of a solid left by cutting off the top or segment by a plane parallel to the base.
     
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    Duplicated post removed. Appologies for a middle-aged moment.
     
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    On New Years Eve 2008, the boiler of Standard 4T 80072 was fitted with its ashpan and, having already been fitted with its smokebox, is now in the loco frames and awaiting completion...

    \:D/ Not too long to go now!
     
  10. Broomhalla

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    As announced in Steam railway the motor to the Railmotor has made the trip up from Didcot to Llangollen and the motor is now in the shed awaiting fitting to the frames. I'm sorry to say i forgot my camera so i cannot present a picture. But it is there.
     
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    Pictures on Llnagollen website

    http://llangollenrail.llangollen-railway.co.uk/breakingnews.html
     
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    How did it leave Didcot? Presumably on a wagon for the trip on the mainline?
     
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    Yes, the boiler left in our green wagon, whilst some Lowmac type thing was borrowed to transport the bogie.
     
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    It was only a trial fitment btw, the boiler is now out again to allow the work to be completed on the frames.
     
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    But at least we all know it fits together now and like i said it does give some idea of what the finished article will look like minus the carriage body.
     
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    And finally some pictures of the railmotor power bogie.

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    The main power bogie

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    The boiler.
     
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    The above pic, also showing the pony truck from the barry 8F, which will be used to construct the bogie for the Patriot replica.
     
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    So you're converting a pony truck into a bogie. I presume you mean that the wheelset is being used.
    The wheels are on a well wagon in Pentrefelin yard . It's a shame that a loco with what looks like a brand new set of tyres was dismantled. In ten years or so the 'County' mob will probably realise that its better to build a new boiler & 48518 might then be restored in its own right.

    Bob.
     
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    Surley though a set of 8F wheels with new tyres are going to be of value to another of our UK working 8Fs at some point? Has to be more cost effective to use an existing set than shell out for retyring another set?

    ...might even find a use on an 8F from "elsewhere".... :-#

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