LMS 45036 Inspection Saloon

it's good news that you have advanced your ideas for the future of this vehicle from a pw wagon to a full rebuild. I think people are wondering if you can muster the resources and facilities to do this though..

 

Just a thought. Are there any LMS carriage bodies extant in Scotland that would fit this underframe?

Sawdust.

 

In the long term the plan is to full rebuild it with a few modifications.

Short term the chassis will be fully restored for use as a flat wagon.

No, was going to send it away to get everything cut to size off site and then it would be delivered to site for construction.

Hope this answers a few questions.

 

I hope you have a very deep pocket to pay for all the timber work to come as a flat pack, as oak is very expensive to buy before you pay for the drawings to be done for the cutting and all the cutting done even if done on a cnc machine.

I wont be surprised if the cost will be over £100K

 

If you want a new body making I suggest that you talk to Theaker Joinery (I have no connection but have heard good things about them). A trip to Aberdeenshire would probably be very worthwhile in terms of yielding items like the roof carlines (hoopsticks) which you probably don't have or if you do they'yre probably distorted by the heat of the fire that destroyed the body. With luck you'll also be able to pick up items such as door hinges, latches and other bits and pieces.

I've no idea what the timber for a new body will cost but if you get hold of the drawings and go to a reputable woodworking firm it may well be considerably less than some of the figures bandied about on here - at least for the basic structure.

 

Thanks 61624 and everyone else for all the comments good or bad all helpful

 

I seem to recall that @StoneRoad has done a lot of work on the Knotty coaches and other railway vehicles. Might be worth a call.


Keith

 

Or you follow the inspired route set by Stephen Middleton, and use whatever materials you can, at minimal cost. There is nothing to say it HAS to be oak....

 

In fact oak body frames have had some of the worst rot I've seen especially around the joints.

Two thirds of the new corridor side frame in sapele for Thompson CK 18477.

 

We also used Sapele for the replacement side sections on Thompson E1866E at Llangollen.

Bob.

 

It couldn't be worse than what they were built of originally!

Sawdust.

 

I would not use oak from the frame.
I would use Stainless steel screws/ bolts etc.

 

Just emailed him thanks

 

What's the curvature of the curve below the windows

 

The tumble home on a LNER coach most likely be different against a LMS coach.

 

They aren't as far apart as you would suppose.

A Thompson pillar next to the LMS inspection saloon door pillar template.

What's the curve? No idea, I've drawn round the originals. On LNER drawings at least the tumble home is marked as 3" from the widest point to the bottom of the bottom side rail.

Sawdust.

 

Lms on the left or right ?

 

Only one of them is a plywood template Stuart!

Sawdust.

 

Sorry blonde moment for a minute there

 

So the actual beam needs to be 4x4