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LMS Patriot Project Updates

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Gav106, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. W.Williams

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    The three bids received were excellent and the decision to award the contract to PRCLT was because they scored most highly on our set criteria which comprised: Capacity, Continuity, Main Line Preparation and Operation, Volunteer Input, Capability, Resource, Inspection and Preparation, After Support, Warranties, Relationship, Culture and Safety.

    The decision was based around our ability to establish a good working relationship with the contractor with the clear understanding that it has to be a flexible arrangement to meet all the challenges the Project faces.

    Are these two statements consistent?

    Its reads to me as though the key lynchpin in the decision is the volunteer flexibility aspect.
     
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    From the statement sent to members yesterday> "In effect, we have entered into a partnership with PRCLT who will supply an agreed level of manpower, technical management, support and facilities but will allow our volunteers to assist, wherever possible, in the completion of the locomotive while permitting the involvement of an on-site representative of the Project. The final stage of the construction is essentially an assembly exercise, with all the large components having been sourced, manufactured, delivered and fitted. Much as we would like it to be a precise affair, the lack of drawings and changes in design, make it a ‘fitting job’. The engineering team’s involvement in this process is absolutely critical. A new build is a very different animal to the overhaul of an existing locomotive and therefore requires a very different approach."
    People may wish to interpret this statement in many ways but to me it:
    1. underlines the fact that a competent project manager should be on hand to assist in the guidance and quality control of the assembly of such a complex locomotive.
    2. shows that LMS Patriot Project isn't afraid to recognise this and, like many of us, accept that hindsight is a wonderful thing.
    3. doesn't help that a locomotive type such as the Patriot Class will have undergone several modifications and, coupled with a lack of all drawings required, results in more headaches for the project manager and the assembly team.
    4. makes it quite clear in the last sentence to any person or group on either side of the Atlantic Ocean (!) that if you are crazy enough to want to build an extinct member of a class of steam locomotive, you really will be in for a "long and expensive game."

    I look forward with cheerful alacrity and a lighter wallet, to seeing this magnificent (albeit not GWR!) locomotive up and running.
     
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    Might have asked this before, but has this point been rectified? Got to work to at minimum a comprehensive set of DWGS, and it is now easily argued that full CAD models are the way to do this in the modern world per P2 etc. Its worth every penny to get proper drawings that manufactures can work to and be held accountable against.

    Not to be interpreted as criticism as I too am very keen to see this fine machine completed and running like clockwork.
     
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    Fantastic idea, replace boiler tubes with a very large coiled leaf spring...
     
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    how does a coiled leaf spring work ?
     
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    Equally mystified. Maybe a volute spring?
     
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    I think he's suggesting clockwork.
    Ray.
     
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    I'd hate to see the size of the key or the number of staff required to carry it !
     
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    Today the loco has left Crewe and has just arrived at the midland railway centre. More pictures later once it has been unloaded
     
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    Look at that pristine white paintwork in the cab, I wonder how many minutes it will last once she is fired up.
     
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    Some last pictures in Crewe
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    Nice contrast with the APT!....which still looks futuristic...
     
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    On the left new power, on the right historic power.
     

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