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LNWR locomotives

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Neil_Scott, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. LMS2968

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    No, the inner door plate is still out. Although I'm a mechanical engineer, I have discovered that boiler construction and repair is a very arcane subject. The inner backplate's being out is so that the outer backplate can be riveted to the sidesheets. We are assured that this the way they do it and the inner backplate is held by stays. I'm waiting to see. I'll get back to you when I find out.

    Yes, the pony trucks between Horwich and Stanier Crabs are very different. Their wheel diameters different too: 3ft 6.5in and 3ft 3.5in.
     
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    Beautiful summary.

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    Thanks. The pitch of what I assumed were rivet holes in the flanges of the inner doorplate is rather smaller than the pitch of the general stays, and it begs the question of what happens for the top flange. Feedback awaited with interest.
     
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    Thanks as ever, Tom, for a typically insightful reply. I think you are quite right about the 'grouping' of key officials from each constituent. Although Michael Bonavia's history of the SR gives a good summary of the appointments made at that time it doesn't (IIRC) make that point explicitly. Certainly it must have made Walker's job harder - appointing on merit whilst also keeping certain groups of people together, and achieving a rough balance between the constituents at the end of it all. A great manager indeed!
     
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    It is certainly very interesting that the great locomotive designers have become household names - even having streets named after them in some cases - yet the general managers are largely forgotten. Can you think of any other industry where the manager of a company would be completely overshadowed by one of his heads of department? Admittedly Walker does have a small plaque to his memory at Waterloo; but then, Gresley has a statue at Kings Cross!
     
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    Maybe the football industry?
     
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    I see from the latest Branch Lines that the inner door plate is being fixed to the inner wrapper with patch screws.
     
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    Yes, but unfortunately, and like so much else, work has now stopped.

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    Holy thread resurrection.

    This just popped up on my feed: a film of what I believe is a "Teutonic" class (LNWR isn't my things apologies if something else), at speed taking water at Bushey Troughs, filmed from a parallel-running train and almost "bowled" by a lengthy coal train going the other way hauled by an 0-6-0 coal engine.

    The fireman has his work cut out; water overflowing from the water filler just as he puts the injector on and it fails to pick up cleanly!

    Filmed in 1898 ...



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    Why he decided to put the feed on over the troughs is a bit of a mystery; I'd have expected him to be dealing with the dip on the other side of the footplate, but he's clearly visible on the fireman's side. LNWR injectors were generally reliable, which was just as well: they were mounted near the centre line and you couldn't see the waste pipe, so had no idea if it had picked up or not.

    Thanks for posting these two very interesting videos. I have always thought that the superelevation at Bridge was rather alarming!
     
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    Excellent quality film footage Tom! Real gems, these. Thank You for sharing them.

    Richard.
     
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    He has a bowler-hatted inspector on the footplate as well, just to complete his joyful day!

    What got me about the Tubular Bridge film was just how nonchalantly the p/way gang swapped sides, only seconds ahead of the other train emerging from the bridge. It's a continuous take as well, you can see the steam of the first train appear at the far end of the bridge as the second emerges at the near end.

    What was the little hut by the entrance to the bridge between the two tracks? Looked like a bothy of some sort?

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    Re the injector overflow; I was expecting it to be between the frames and out of sight as in other LNWR locos but it can clearly be seen by the footstep with water flowing out, just before the loco disappears off camera.
     
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    Health and safety gorn mad, etc.
     
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    Certainly a Teutonic: Jeannie Deans herself, no less.
    Must be fake of course, as they only ever had the wheels going in opposite directions, etc.
    Magnificent footage. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    The hut at the end of the Britannia Tubular Bridge is a Fogman's shelter. There can be seen one at each end of this film of the Conway Tubular Bridge also from 1898:

     
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    That first film of Britannia Bridge is truly exceptional. Interesting to read that it was shot on 68mm, I also suspect that the frame rate is higher than usual for the time, as it has a fluidity of movement which you just don't see in films from this period. Thanks for sharing!
     

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