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Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by 50044 Exeter, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    That is very important information, crucial to the future of the whole project. It may have needed to be confidential while the purchase was negotiated, but what possible justification is there for keeping it secret now?

    FWIW I seriously considered subscribing for shares in the pub but decided against it.
     
  2. 21B

    21B Part of the furniture

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    I think what the L and B at its best offers is a great adventure. Perhaps the last great railway adventure in the UK. The recreation of a railway dead for close to a century, reborn and revitalised, showing the way to create a sustainable and relevant visitor attraction and community asset.
     
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    I do wonder if some of the angst about Old Station House Inn does relate to this issue? Speaking as a businessman, a limited company or PLC for that matter can go into administration and this does not ordinarily impact on other related businesses, unless a collateral warranty is in place (which would be listed on companies house if it were). So IF OSHI were to go into administration, the shareholders (including myself) would lose their money (all or part), but this wouldn't ordinarily impact upon other related businesses (other than loss of shares or unsecured loans).
     
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    Miff Part of the furniture Friend

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    You have a very good point - it’s similar motivations (and some of the same people) that powered the WHR revival, the current RVR project and the GCR unification.

    However, in order to attract enough of these kind of supporters (together with their professionalism and their money) L&B first needs to resolve the differences, both actual and perceived, between the Woody Bay and the Exmoor factions. Perhaps development of a joint ‘vision’ for the next 20 years might be a first step, which might well include operating railways at more than one site (as both WHR/FfR and GCR’ve done) until they can join up.

    One of the problems with the recent CFL/Parracombe proposals was, perhaps, they just weren’t ambitious enough to generate much excitement outside the L&B inner circle.

    Unity & clarity is the first step. Merging the organisations is not essential but they all need to subscribe to a common set of medium-term objectives (the existing long-term shared objective isn’t good enough) and to be clear about their respective roles.

    It may yet take a while and involve some painful decisions. GCR unification now seems to be back on track with a new sense of unity following resolution of a few years of internal strife. K&ESR/RVR seemed to make little progress for a long time, with only lukewarm support from the KESR until there was a significant change in RVR focus and suddenly it all started to happen with everybody on board. And probably the best thing to happen to the WHR was the FfR’s decision to take over the project after a few years of seeming to oppose it and at a time when the ‘64 Co. was perceived, whether fairly or not, to have achieved little towards the reconstruction after so many years. Any parallels with the L&B?
     
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    class8mikado Part of the furniture

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    Perhaps in this day an age adventures dont need to last more than 20mins.
     
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    You’re thinking about the wrong stakeholders.

    Job #1 is to have a vision of what we want to achieve that is compelling enough to interest enough people. Then that vision has to expand to address the needs of other stakeholders (community etc). Right now though we (those interested enough to even attempt to build the thing) have to be enthusiastic about the challenges.

    Job#2 is about ensuring that our vision will deliver something of tangible and lasting value to the local area. ( part of that is knowing what the public services might look like - loosely ). And knowing what it would cost to deliver.

    Job#3 is having a package of funding, which only comes when 1 and 2 are compelling.

    I think Adventure has to be a challenge. The trick is to make sure that it looks achievable in a realistic timescale.
     
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    I see, i am coming at this from the 'punters' perspective, but your replay clarifies your original post which is from an Enthusiast/potential Stakeholder point of view. Yes it would be a very brave or 'adventurous' group who decide to re locate the whole operation to another stretch of trackbed where it is more feasible to reinstate several miles of track, with potential 'destination's.
     
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