If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Mid Hants Railway Operational Matters

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by NightRail, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. Kempenfelt 82e

    Kempenfelt 82e Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    146
    Likes Received:
    243
    Location:
    Bristol / Priddy
    The story goes that it was dark and I think there was a failure with the intended 4f banker, so the crew jumped on what they believed was a Black 5 that was still in steam only to realise later on what they’d done.

    The axle loading was indeed the reason for the ban.

    As Matt A has already mentioned, Jubilee’s regularly made it to Bath Green Park with the southbound Pines. Many of the Barrow Road Jube’s were seen on this turn.
     
    bluetrain and jnc like this.
  2. Hampshire Unit

    Hampshire Unit Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    1,284
    Likes Received:
    1,698
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Carer, Gardener
    Location:
    Alresford
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sorry, heard the departure rather than saw it! Here's a couple from yesterday afternoon

    [​IMG]Bucolic Steam by Stephen Morley, on Flickr

    [​IMG]Countryman in the Country by Stephen Morley, on Flickr
     
  3. 21B

    21B Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Messages:
    1,849
    Likes Received:
    2,687
    30925 and 41312 in use this week.

    Sent from my SM-A405FN using Tapatalk
     
  4. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    3,031
    Likes Received:
    3,302
    Axle load may have been an issue but it was not the issue. 5Xs were put of gauge through the tunnels at Bath as well as through some stations. Similarly GW outside cylinder loco were also banned - too wide across the cylinders. People forget just how tight things were in Devonshire and Coombe Down Tunnels. Peter
     
    Kempenfelt 82e likes this.
  5. gricerdon

    gricerdon Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    916
    Likes Received:
    425
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gricer and Grandad
    Location:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Perfect, thanks.

    Don
     
  6. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2015
    Messages:
    6,859
    Likes Received:
    5,083
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Location:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Pictures suggest that the clearance is about the same as on The Tube
     
  7. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2006
    Messages:
    10,418
    Likes Received:
    7,106
    Occupation:
    Gentleman of leisure, nowadays
    Location:
    Near Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm willing to bet a Mars Bar that Jubilees were banned from the Tube, as well.:) Maybe even the Underground.
     
  8. 35B

    35B Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    15,864
    Likes Received:
    12,821
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I'd still fancy seeing one come through Earl's Court...
     
  9. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    10,364
    Likes Received:
    5,995
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Never you mind
    Location:
    31A
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Only a Smartie would know that, I’ll get me coat...
     
  10. Bikermike

    Bikermike Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2020
    Messages:
    692
    Likes Received:
    729
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Thameslink territory
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  11. MellishR

    MellishR Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    5,672
    Likes Received:
    3,382
    Black 5s surely have slightly wider cylinders than Jubilees, so were they banned too?
     
  12. RLinkinS

    RLinkinS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2008
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    645
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    No, Black 5s were permitted. It was probably height not width that was the issue. The 7Fs have 21" cylinders

    Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
     
  13. bluetrain

    bluetrain Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2019
    Messages:
    630
    Likes Received:
    872
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wiltshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Devonshire and Coombe Down tunnels may have been narrow single-track bores, but they were able to take the SDJR 2-8-0s. These locos had large 21-inch diameter cylinders and were among the widest over cylinders in Great Britain - almost a full 9 feet, and nearly 5 inches wider than a Jubilee. If a Jubilee had loading gauge issues, I can only surmise that it was to do with cab roof edges. But was a Jubilee cab any higher than for a Black 5?

    Some LSWR and GCR engines were slightly wider than 9 feet over platforms and side-tanks. The SDJR 2-8-0 will soon be joining Urie members of the "wide brigade" on the MHR.
     

    Attached Files:

  14. gricerdon

    gricerdon Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    916
    Likes Received:
    425
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gricer and Grandad
    Location:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    No they did a lot of work on the S&D. For those interested in locos which worked over the line Peter Smith’s book is a great read
     
  15. RLinkinS

    RLinkinS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2008
    Messages:
    603
    Likes Received:
    645
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I second that. I have lost count of how many times I have read it

    Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
     
  16. Monkey Magic

    Monkey Magic Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2018
    Messages:
    2,883
    Likes Received:
    5,827
    Location:
    Here, there, everywhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I am pretty sure they did run along the underground and tube network.
     
  17. Stinch

    Stinch New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2019
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    47
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Essex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Storm sheet kinda day today!
     

    Attached Files:

  18. gricerdon

    gricerdon Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    916
    Likes Received:
    425
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gricer and Grandad
    Location:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Excellent day out today behind 30925 on a well loaded but not full 5 coach train. Well organised and seemed to be enjoyed by the families who comprised most of the bookings. I think we were the only two gricers. My only criticism is that the tables in our coach could have been cleaner. They could do with a really good scrub before tomorrow. Coach 4211. Thanks to everyone at the MHR for our first steam since 7th March.
     
  19. free2grice

    free2grice Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,781
    Likes Received:
    1,954
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired Rolls-Royce engineer
    Location:
    Bath Green Park / Mangotsfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    An early Christmas present for the Mid-Hants Railway.

    [​IMG]

    Thanks to Paul Orrells and wsr.org for the image.

    Update: Long queues reported on the A39 at Holford, Somerset due to an HGV hauling a large black locomotive.

    I wonder which loco that could be. ;) <BJ>
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2020
  20. Martin

    Martin New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2007
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    25
    Gala tickets are now available on the website, just bought mine for the Saturday.
     

Share This Page