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Mid Hants Railway Operational Matters

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by NightRail, Jan 11, 2017.

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  1. 21B

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    It will be 506 in about an hour

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    506 just left Ropley for Alres :)
     
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    Pity in a way, this was rather nice this morning.... Ivatt and 5 at Arleside.jpg
     
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    Nice photo. Bit of a mixture of coach liveries there! SR green, BR green, BR Maroon and BR blood and custard.

    Is that 1456?
     
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    Yes that is 1456. I like the mix, good to see some blood and custard on the Mid-Hants
     
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    Is that a complaint about the liveries? Plenty of trains ran with that sort of mix in the 50s and 60s I think?

    Not 1456....41312

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    That picture does show up quite well the visual difference between a Bulleid and a Mark 1.

    Tom
     
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    Aye. Could do with a GUV dipped in woad to complete the effect! :)
     
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    Am I right in thinking the curve on the tanks of a BR 80000 tank would match the curvature on the Bulleid coach?
     
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    Not sure about that. I believe the curve on Bulleid coaches matches that of Bulleid tenders though.
     
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    Not a complaint, just a comment.

    Good to see 1456 in use after all the hard work at Ropley. Shame they have to give it back to the Bluebell one day!
     
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    No, it was more to do with making them fit the L1 loading gauge
     
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    I might be thinking of Mk1’s, during the many videos I’ve seen during various lockdowns, there was a comment in one video regarding the curve of the tanks on a standard 4 and coaching stock.
    Every days a school day on here :)
     
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    The Bulleid sides clearly extend further down than the BR ones. Does that reflect a difference in construction?
     
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    Some Bulleids have a lower skirt fitted like 1456 has, others don’t which makes the bottom of the body sides more in line with Mk1s.

    Mk1s and Bulleids are entirely different construction. MK1s are steel construction and Bulleids are wooden framed.
     
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    I think it's another one of those urban myths, like the airsmoothed casing on Bulleid pacifics enabling them to go through a carriage washer.
     
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    Yes, they are fundamentally different. A Mark 1 is all steel. A Bulleid has a steel sole bar with pockets rather than a curb rail; the main structure is wooden with the uprights slotting into the steel pockets.

    Essentially they are a transitional design between a Maunsell carriage (which has an all wooden framework, with a wooden curb rail along the bottom that is the foundation for the body, bolted to the underframe); and a Mark 1 (which is all steel).

    This is a good photo (not mine) of a Bulleid structure:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/admorley/8526172286/

    Tom
     
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    No complaint at all from me. Just how I remember it. Looking forward to tomorrow and I will report on it but whether HR includes it for the next issue is up to the Editor and we are right on the deadline.
     
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    Yes ALL Bulleids were designed to go through the carriage washers. Yes ALL
     
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    I've often wondered about what arrangements existed (or were intended) to take a locomotive tender's coal bunker through a washer. Enlightenment, anyone, please?
     
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