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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Reading General, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Reading General

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    what classes survived to the near end of steam but missed preservation?
     
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    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    For starters;

    B16 - 1964
    J37 - 1966
    J38 - 1967
    77XXX 2-6-0 1967
    82XXX 2-6-2t 1967
     
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    WD 2-8-0s, the only one now in existence had to be repatriated from Sweden. Midland 2F and 3F 0-6-0s both lasted until 1964, Clans, A1s.

    Although they didn't survive to near the end of steam, the LBSC K class 2-6-0, withdrawn in one fell swoop in 62, I believe the Bluebell were after one but couldnt get the money together in time, so this must count as a near miss. Tom will confirm no doubt.
     
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    Thankfully both are being re-created along with a BR Std 82xxx tank.
     
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    L&YR Barton Wright 0-4-4 Tanks. All withdrawn before World War I - yes One), but several survives as stationery boilers.

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    I photographed this on 12th July 1968 at Edge Hill.
     
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    There were two at Blackpool Central as well, possibly one at Red Bank, Manchester?
     
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    That's criminal something so ancient lasted to such a date and didn't make it, Perhaps it's condition was thought beyond saving at that time ?.
     
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    They were incomplete, the driving axle and wheelset was removed, along with, presumably, the motion. At the time, this would have been considered too much work to reinstate. As they were still being used as stationary boilers, I would have guessed that the boilers were still in decent condition
     
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    The last BR 77xxx went in July 1967, and the last 84xxx went in 1966 I believe. The last 72xxx made it to August 1966. None of any of these classes was preserved.

    Tom
     
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    Of the four Standard classes which became extinct, the last ones were the 82xxx. The last two still in service were at Nine Elms, but four had been transferred to Patricroft and they lingered on until the shed closed in 1968, latterly out of use.
     
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    LMS Fowler 2-6-4t 1966.
    LMS Stanier 2-6-4t 1967.
     
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    For my nominations, off to 5ft3in gauge territory...

    GNRI UG class 0-6-0 146 (UTA48) & 149 (UTA49) both lasted until 1967. Neither succumbed to the torch until 1968. Here's a link to a photos of UTA49 & 48 respctively, in happier times:
    https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KLn2Cg6lBZsRQAF6Lw3olQ;_ylu=X3oDMTIyMjAwdmVlBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMzYjg3OGU0MjY0NDQxMzU0YTQxY2EzNDEzZTUyNWMzNQRncG9zAzEEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=gnri+class+ug+loco&fr=mozmob1&fr2=piv-web&tab=organic&ri=1&w=800&h=597&imgurl=www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/1264429227/med_gallery_2692_292_39182.jpg&rurl=http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/13326-gnri-149-ug-class-fintona-junction-07-06-1957/&size=387.4KB&name=+<b>GNRI</b>+149+<b>UG</b>+<b>Class</b>+Fintona+Junction&p=gnri+class+ug+loco&oid=3b878e4264441354a41ca3413e525c35&fr2=piv-web&fr=mozmob1&tt=+<b>GNRI</b>+149+<b>UG</b>+<b>Class</b>+Fintona+Junction&b=0&ni=21&no=1&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=13emlrb2p&sigb=13dg3p99v&sigi=12b0fiie4&sigt=11oqr6qfk&sign=11oqr6qfk&.crumb=mSwCo/Y6HFl&fr=mozmob1&fr2=piv-web
    Worse yet, GNRI SG3 0-6-0 97 (UTA37) wdn 1965 survived intact until 1969. Here's a view of classmate UTA33 (ex-GNRI 20):
    https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0WTTcoL61BZMBkAPUHw3olQ;_ylu=X3oDMTIyamdqbGpwBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM5ZjAxYzhmM2NjNGU0Njk3MjgzNzM1NmM0M2RkMDFiMARncG9zAzcEaXQDYmluZw--?.origin=&back=https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=gnri+class+sg3+loco&n=60&ei=UTF-8&fr=mozmob1&fr2=sb-top-uk.images.search.yahoo.com&tab=organic&ri=7&w=860&h=573&imgurl=www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/00-0-a-rs-greenwood-AUTA018.jpg&rurl=http://www.davidheyscollection.com/page88.htm&size=125.1KB&name=David+Heys+steam+diesel+photo+collection&p=gnri+class+sg3+loco&oid=9f01c8f3cc4e46972837356c43dd01b0&fr2=sb-top-uk.images.search.yahoo.com&fr=mozmob1&tt=David+Heys+steam+diesel+photo+collection&b=0&ni=21&no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11d1p8chl&sigb=14mkqi0qe&sigi=126ej8p1l&sigt=118kg273f&sign=118kg273f&.crumb=mSwCo/Y6HFl&fr=mozmob1&fr2=sb-top-uk.images.search.yahoo.com
     
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    The Billinton K class is firmly on my personal WIBN list ..... as and when Camelot finally get the lottery numbers right!
     
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    Crosti- boilered 9F's (8F's)

    Bob.
     
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    Perhaps, in view of that gentleman's "contribution to preservation", the demise of "Sir William Stanier FRS" at Cashmore's (allegedly the only occasion on which the axe-man called the office to check if the loco in front of him should be cut up) was karma at work. Still, it's a pity neither of the Ivatt "Coronations" made it into the heritage era.
     
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    Add the 4700-1964 in this group with the 4709 cut and shut build.
     
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    I've got an Ian Allan "ABC British Railways Steam Locomotives" dating from Summer 1966, (Different dates for different regions, but basically two years before the end of steam)
    Examples of the following now extinct classes were still on BR's books:-
    Midland 0F 0-4-0T Deeley Dock tank
    LMS 0-4-0ST (47000/1/5) - sorry, can't describe these locos any better than this.
    Midland 3f 0-6-0T Johnson Large Midland Tank

    Plus J37/J38/77xxx/82xxx and WD 2-8-0 which have already been mentioned.
     
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    Not steam but D601 at Barry surviving until 1980 before meeting it's maker.
     
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    Along with it's smaller DE sister.
     

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