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Non - Stop BRISTOLIAN 17/4/2010!

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by campainr, Jan 7, 2010.

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  1. royals pete

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    Just as it should be then......green lights all the way !!!!!
     
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  2. Crewe Hall

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    Brilliant suggestion.

    Have you ever seen the photos of road milk tankers on special carriage trucks coupled inside Princesses on the Mid Day Scot in the 30's?
     
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  3. Crewe Hall

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    Watching the abysmal performance on top gear, I doubt whther it would get as far as Old Oak Common West before Clarkson expired.
     
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  4. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    I don't suppose that there are too many full brakes still available with mainline certs?
     
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  5. Sheff

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    Equally important is to make sure the TOP of the extra tanks is level with the tender tank top. Otherwise you'll create a system you can't fill right up. (This actually happened on an American plant I was involved with. They wanted more liquid storage capacity, but lacked headroom, so they put in a new wide but dumpy tank next to the tall narrow one already existing, then put a balance pipe between the two. They then left them to fill, only the high level trip was on the tall tank. Several hours later, as the fill pumps were still running, they went out to check and found a nice lake forming, with the new dumpy tank overflowing like mad - whoops!)
     
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  6. Martin Perry

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    A full tank will not need baffles, unless they formed part of the structure of the tank, there would be no surging if it was 100% full.
     
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  7. Sheff

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    .... but you wouldn't fill a tank 100% full, need to allow for expansion etc.
     
    Sheff, Jan 16, 2010
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  8. Martin Perry

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    100% fill would be into the neck of the filler giving a small space above it for expansion.
     
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    Not that i think it is the answer, but more out of curiousity, what would the capacity of a six wheel milk tank with baffles added roughly be ?, could be an interesting proposal for the future.
     
    david1984, Jan 16, 2010
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  10. RalphW

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    This tanker has a 2,000 gallon tank, but as you can see it looks small, that's because the same chassis had originally been fitted with a 3,000 gallon tank.
     
    RalphW, Jan 16, 2010
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  11. Pete Thornhill

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    Trust me this is wrong I happen to know from the business I run even with a full tank the baffles will disperse the forces of the water moving in the tank and trust me even it is brimmed it'll still move. Anyway I imagine any tank that is used will have baffles forming part of the stucture. Anyway the tank isn't going to be staying full!
     
    Pete Thornhill, Jan 16, 2010
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  12. Martin Perry

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    Quite so - the point was academic!
     
    Martin Perry, Jan 16, 2010
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  13. Matt35027

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    Why a milk tanker? Why not a recently disposed of oil tanker and paint it in United Dairies livery. What kind of speed restrictions are there on oil tankers?
     
    Matt35027, Jan 17, 2010
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  14. ADB968008

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    Someone will suggest using an MGR wagon for extra coal next :)
     
    ADB968008, Jan 17, 2010
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  15. buseng

    buseng Part of the furniture

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    Not sure of speed restrictions, but milk tankers are 6 wheel & oil tankers are 4 wheel if that makes a difference. 6 wheels are better for weight distribution (like tenders).
     
    buseng, Jan 18, 2010
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  16. Matt35027

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    I was thinking maybe if it was a fairly modern oil tanker rather than a heritage milk tanker it would be easier to get it certified to run on the mainline
     
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  17. saltydog

    saltydog Part of the furniture

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    Good grief, where did you find out how we'd sorted out the coal problem? :gossip:
    Now the only debate is what livery it should be in.
    For me it has to be a nod towards the 21st century and First Great Western livery.
     
    saltydog, Jan 18, 2010
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  18. j4141

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    Trying to figure out this water and coal issue.....

    There are a bunch of old C-130 Tankers around that could be used for a refuling probe and for an air-drop of coal.

    The stall speed of an early C-130 is just under 100mph, so 5043 would have to be moving at quite a clip for the hose to stay in the tank.

    The C-130's had a fuel / water tank in them that held 3,600 gallons - just perfect for a thirsty Castle!


    Well - it's no more rediculious that some of the other posts! LOL
     
    j4141, Jan 18, 2010
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  19. Matt35027

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    I like the idea of 5029 running parallel with a bowser of water for a while
     
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  20. RalphW

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    Now this is really 'Thinking outside the box,' 'Blue sky' etc etc..
     
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