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Peak Rail General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by kestreleyes, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. Woodster21

    Woodster21 New Member

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    Any pictures of the special?
     
  2. Petwall

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    Just put a couple on Flickr
    The link is below

    Pete
     
  3. Dennis Rayner

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    Please excuse my ignorance but why are there 4 rails over Bridge 35?

    Dennis
     
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    It's a saftey measure in case of derailment.

    I'm sure a more technical explanation will be along shortly.
     
  5. Dennis Rayner

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    I would have expected to see check rails for that. These appear to be about the right distance apart to host a Welsh NG loco!

    Dennis
     
  6. John Webb

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    If there were check-rails, it would be possible if something caused a wheel to come off the track that its mate might be dragged over/through the check-rail; there would only be the depth of the wheel flange to hold it in place and various past accidents have shown this may not be enough to restrain the wheel. The wheel on the outside of the line could continue to move away from the line and eventually hit the bridge parapet with consequent nasty results.
    By having the two safety rails a distance away from the running rails, a wheel that had derailed to the inside of the track is then fully on the ground, and there is the whole height of the safety rail to stop further lateral movement until the train is halted.
    Hope this makes things clear.
     
  7. Dennis Rayner

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    Thank you for that explanation John - it makes total sense. It does seem incredibly belt and braces though.

    Today, we have trains crossing at 25 mph (or less?) in the middle of a dual track bridge. Presumably in previous days with double track across the bridge, expresses would cross at (say?) 60mph at far less clearance from the parapets.

    Risk assessment would clearly indicates that our scenario (without the check rails) is a significantly lower risk.

    So why do we need them?

    Dennis
     
  8. John Webb

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    There is almost certainly a national standard which applies to such protection regardless of location and usual line speed, Failure to observe installing such a precaution would probably bring down the wrath of officialdom. The absence of such a precaution would also upset the railway's insurers, I suspect. Do bear in mind that this bridge is across a river and even at slow speeds there is a lot of energy from a couple of hundred tons of train moving even at 10-15mph!
     
  9. Steve

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    ORR Guidance on the matter is contained in Railway Safety Publication No.5 'Guidance on Minor Railways'. It states (paras 120-122):
    120 The design of a bridge carrying the railway should consider the possible effects of a train being derailed on it, or on the immediate approaches to it. Similar consideration should be given to embankments where any part of the height is formed of a vertical or near vertical face.
    121 Suitable means to contain the wheels of derailed vehicles should be provided. Robust kerbs are considered to be a suitable means of containment.
    Note: On minor railways, check- or guard-rails may be an adequate means of derailment prevention/containment.
    122 Derailment protection measures should extend clear of the bridge on the approach side for approximately 1500 mm where reasonably practicable.
     
  10. bluediamondman

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    Coming up this weekend -1st & 2nd September 2012....THE HUNTER SHUNTER EXTRAVAGANZA....Full details at...Pastevents
     
  11. kestreleyes

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    Hello all

    This week the s and t have been continuing at Riverside with the lever frames mechanical interlocking We also had a visit from Some Of our colleagues from the Yorkshire Dales Railway whove helped us out with items for Riverside so in return we've helped them with their Bolton Abbey project as the signalling we have is similar to their equipment and also used the time to run over a few of the finer points of Riversides interlocking with other independent colleagues

    Elsewhere the HST lads have been getting locomotives ready for the shunters gala, the line side gang have been hedge cutting n strimming down to Matlock, Paul and Ben have been continuing making the new frame ends for the metal clad Lms coach and Bens aquired another nice signal finial for restoration , lastly the reprinting on the steam crane progresses well as does the queen Mary brakevan

    Well done all keep up the good work
     
  12. kestreleyes

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    from the Peakrail forum;

    Monday 3 September 2012 at 8.00pm
    For an increased £3 donation on the door (to cover expenses), all welcome to:

    "RAILWAYS OF GREATER NOTTINGHAM"
    slideshow - Martin Bromley (Nottingham)

    CHANGE TO ADVERTISED PROGRAMME. Owing to a period of illness and change of accommodation, Martin has been unable to prepare this year the planned new show "Pottering Along to Crewe", which he will now present to us in 2013. Meanwhile we see something he had prepared earlier.


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    presented by: Peak Railway Association (Sheffield Branch) at
    The Harlequin Pub (upstairs function room)
    108 Nursery St, Sheffield S3 8GG

    bus routes 47, 48, 53 and 87 pass the door.

    hope to see you!
    Dave

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    David Sharp
    Peak Railway Association, Sheffield Branch
     
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    How is the restoration of the Darley Dale footbridge proceeding?
     
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    One for Ben there

    Elsewhere s and t continue with the mech interlocking on riverside frame. A small 040 steam locomotive Fd &E Co no3 appeared on low loader at the site entrance (dont know any more details yet) and it's the festival of transport at Darley Dale again in the fields rear if the station
     
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    Ex-Falmouth Docks, and one of the last industrial steam locos in use in the UK (last used at Falmouth in the mid-Eighties). I think it may even have been the last, if you don't count the Barclay fireless 'Glaxo' as a steam loco. Spent a couple of decades at the Plym Valley before being acquired by Graham Lee (or one of the Statfold lads, anyhow) and restored at Statfold. Spends most its time these days at the Mid-Suffolk Light Railway.
     
  16. kestreleyes

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    only an update from the signalling side this time as have been stuck at Riverside in recent weeks, the signallers walkway at Riverside is well on going thanks to the weekday folks,the sleepers are down and filled now, also the mechanical locking is now all in, the next tasks being the wiring testing and locking testing,the department are well on with snagging works too.
     
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    This week the s and t have been back on testing the box wiring and connecting in the lock economisers some I which will need the mag drill for next week to drill the connecting holes

    A visit in passing by our ICP and to finish started on the fuse board from the power supply

    Elsewhere the Pway have been recovering the old north yard
     
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    James starting fitting the arms to Riversides signals today and with John ,Ian and James, we carried on testing Riversides wiring, elsewhere a new siding at Rowsley has started to be laid out,recovered from the old North yard.
     
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    S&T. Continuing with Riverside, the remaining economisers have been drilled and connected to the tappet rods and more wiring testing completed, were back. Down tommorow fitting two more signal arms(last two now) and change a casting over.

    had a chat with MR Briddon senior who was tackling a clutch in one if the shunters, there's also a dutch liveried shunter arrived from MIddlepeak rlys for some work. And "Swiftsure" another WD j94 has arrived too

    Noted the HST and class 50 lads about sheltering from the weather like the rest of us brrrrrrrr :)
     
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    How many steam locomotives do Peak Rail have now? In the future will Peak Rail be operating two trains at once rather than just the one as is the case right now?
     

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