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Premise: class 08 never built...

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  1. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

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    super skills though creating them
     
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    Yeah well, actually all the BR standards are plug ugly, especially the smaller ones. Its just that people get used to stuff and what you're familiar with seems OK. So I reckon he's got the Riddles style off pretty well. When I was drawing my Riddlesized 1500 I was amazed by how much the looks went off when I replaced the GWR bunker with the LMS/BR styled one.
     
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    Ahem! I beg to differ! I wouldn't say the Standards are plug ugly, they're just a bit more functional maybe? The enginemans engine shall we say? :)
     
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    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    No, this is the engineman's engine...

    http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/h-class.html

    It was all downhill from there, and getting uglier to boot.

    Tom
     
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    Bit modern that Tom, and the wheels are too big for shunting...

    If you want an engine that's a joy to crew and which knows exactly how to deal with troublesome trucks...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Outside motion and piston valves - where did it all go wrong for so long after ?
     
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    On that loco, where they went wrong involves where the water tanks are!
    Ashing it out is not one of life's pleasures (and is almost impossibly agonizing without a pit).
     
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    Because Josiah Evans worked for a colliery and foundry business and not for a railway company though his design was influenced by the LNWR. Haddock D was built in 1874. The design was successful, the engine is very impressive the more so when the background of the design and construction is considered. It was a landmark design- but it took decades for the mainline companies to catch up.
     
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    Others have a different opinion of it!
     
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    Just imagine a fleet of 1000 of these built in the 1950s. :)
     
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    With saddle tanks.

    Edit - having said that, the view out of Bellerophon must be excellent - perhaps with modern ash disposal facilities it would be better with the well tank.
     
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    i thought that Bellerophon was indeed built for a main line company but order was cancelled or some story like that.
     
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    Do you do photoshop requests? Could you do an Ivatt 4MT with the running plates dropped a foot or so, so they are level with the bottom of the cab? Think that would improve the looks drastically
     
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    No built in house at Haydock and it was one of 6 that was built of this class with the works no C.
     
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    Just another thought.

    Would they have looked more like the Bagnall 'Brookfield' that is at mangapps?

    Chris
     

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