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Project Wareham

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by David R, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. DcB

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    Thanks, also all mainline trains normally stop at Wareham reducing risk of collision if there are delays?
    I notice the DMUs now have yellow on the cab fronts to help them be more noticeable, where traditionally they would have green with white "speed whiskers".
    The issue might be if there are special non stop trains where care might be needed?
     
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    And just to confirm a couple of images a coupe of mile after Worgret, July 24 2019.
     

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    Thx Gladiator(As in Gloster?) 2022 The year of "bums in seats" for the Swanage DMUs.. Let us hope so!!
     
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    Are you over thinking this?
    If there are any other trains on the Down line, The Swanage train will be held on the Branch up home signal at Worgret jn which is also protected with trap points,
    Once the Swanage train is signalled onto the down main line, it is the one and only train on that section of line. Exactly like the trial trains back in 2017.
     
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    I thought that yellow ends were no longer a requirement on the big railway?
     
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    ORR will, rightly, set the rules based on what is allowed rather than what is likely. Those rules are not just about what happens when the signalling works correctly, but also about mitigating the consequences if something were to go catastrophically wrong. We have seen two major examples (Stonehaven and Salisbury) in the last two years of what can arise even though all involved are working absolutely in accordance with instructions.
    IF the vehicle meets certain other standards of front end illumination.
     
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    You have to admit those front headlights on the "Lights" trains A) looked good B) seemed to be effective. Have never understood why the front ends of UK trains are so poorly lit.
     
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    Because in the UK Railways are required to be fenced, not so elsewhere
     
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    Yes,They could do with some fencing around the railways in L.A. at the moment!!
     
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    Yes but the original reason why the railways in the UK were fenced is somewhat interesting and not what you may think.
     
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    Say more
     
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    Nowadays the stated purpose is to prevent intrusion onto the railway (for example trespass or wandering livestock) but originally it was to mark the boundary so that railway employees did not trespass on private land.
     
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    We're going way off topic, but the modern lights are causing issues with damaging the night sight of drivers passing them.
     
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    I think they are not wanting to run them and are just coming up with more excusers. They will cost the railway to much money as there are no people around for covid. There has been questions asked about what would happen at the junction because of Salisbury where it went whooshing through but most of it like headlight burning out drivers eyes are just excuses They will run again when things are normal and as I have put it is not becaus they are old as they are already letting locomotion go on the main line. This is NOT and issue
     
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    Never knew that. Another Nat Pres school day!;)

    Peter
     
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    City of truro fan - Please, Please once and for all time - the situations at Salisbury and Worgret Junction are for all intents and purposes ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
    Even if bad rail head conditions exist at Worgret Junction then Swanage Railway trains would be derailed at trap points if they passed the junction red signal - so no crash possible. There were/are no similar trap points at Salisbury.
    The high speed skid at Salisbury could not be achieved at Worgret Junction as the gradient is uphill onto the main line. The SWR train at Salisbury was skidding downhill I believe.
    You've mentioned a comparison between Salisbury and Worgret Junction before and I tried to re-assure you then that there is NO comparison. Please do not trouble to mention it again as you'll just get yourself worked up over nothing.
    Regarding high powered headlights on modern trains. Before retiring in 2007, I spent almost 10 years driving trains out of London Kings Cross when these new headlights were being introduced. Some other trains coming towards me had wrongly aligned headlights. This did cause me to lose my night vision for quite a long time afterwards. They're not powerful enough to cause "burning out drivers eyes" as you graphically put it but it could still cause a problem.
     
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    Warning - thread drift from Project Wareham
    I believe you might be referring to a possible commemoration of Waterloo's 175 anniversary in 2023.
    Adams Class T3 563 was exhibited there in 1948 (to celebrate the station's 100th anniversary) and, I believe, the 563 group volunteers are hoping that something official will be organised next year and that enough money will have been donated before then to have all restoration works completed. If so, let's hope 563 will be ready to be towed up to London.
    As to whether some carriages will accompany it - that depends on whether they will be invited to attend. If yes, then hopefully they will pass the necessary inspections to allow them to travel with 563.
    Now, back to Project Wareham ......
     
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    It’s not only railways but farmland that isn’t fenced abroad, here there is an ancient responsibility if your livestock stray - mediaeval manors had detailed arrangements: somebody to round up strays, a pen to keep them in and a fine to the owners, when the open fields were enclosed with lots of acts of parliament, one of the major reasons for the hedged fields was to keep sheep, cattle, horses from wandering.

    Intruding, creating new field boundaries, the railways and the canals before them had to make their boundary stock proof and keep them so which responsibility they have never lost.

    That said, there was a real concern among the highly influential land owners that their game should not be disturbed let alone poached - no stopping pheasants flying out.
     
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    That's a new one on me and I remain Sceptical. Fencing was required by the Regulation of Railways Act 1842. Section X of that Act required:
    "And whereas it is expedient that further Provision be made for the Safety of the Public in respect of the Fences of Railways; be it enacted, That all Railway Companies shall be under the same Liability of Obligation to erect, and to maintain and repair, good and sufficient Fences throughout the whole of their respective Lines, as they would have been if every Part of such Fences had been originally ordered to be made under an Order of Justices by virtue of the Provisions to that Effect in the Acts of Parliament relating to such Railways respectively." (My emphasis.)
     
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    I have asked this question on facebook
    1. Has work on the New Carriage Shed at Herston commenced? Looking at the carriage roofs of some of the dining set it is very badly needed and those DMUs neeed to be kept looking good if
    they are to be the public face of the SR at Wareham
     

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