Railway Touring Company

OK is Cumbrian Mountain Express on 14th June definitely going up the S&C first? Iknow its supposed to be going that way but....

 

The times I have received show it northbound via Shap and southbound via the S&C. Steam leg is Carnforth-Carlisle-Farington Jc. But I am not sure that these are the final times.

David

 

Thanks David, hoped you would clarify.

 

What are the chances that 6233 shall be added at Crewe where it is based? I guess little to none but that is an option that RYTC could take.

 

RYTC has just posted their next years Great Britain Tour. Next years tour shall go west, north and then south. They are proposing the following locomotives so far. 5029, 34046+34067, 44871+45407, 6233, 60007, 60009, 4472, 61994 and 70013. Their are a few tba markings in the schedule.

UK Steam tours site.

 

If you mean the Crewe summer pool then most likely yes... Taken from the Website, it should be 46233, 70013, 60009 and 45305.

 

I have also seen some provisional times with steam booked from Crewe including LE move from Carnforth. Although only skeletal times from Crewe and arrival at Carlisle I have calculated times as Crewe = 10:00; Farington = 10:40; Blackburn = 11:00; Clitheroe = 11:35; Hellifield = 12:00/12:50; Ribblehead = 13:15; Appleby 13:55/14:15; Carlisle = 14:50. To date I have heard nowt regarding working north via WCML and south via S&C but since paths are in the system for steam operation both ways on both routes I would presume a change of direction would be easy to make at any time.

 

The following times have been posted on FreightMaster - acknowledgements to Mark.

Train 1Z86 runs THO from 14/06/12 to 14/06/12
Type STP Electric Loco Timed at 100mph
Operator WR WEST COAST RAILWAY COMPANY (22244008)

London Euston 0626
Camden South Jn 0629
Camden Jn 0629
Willesden West Londn Jn 0632
Wembley Central 0634
Harrow & Wealdstone 0636
Watford Junction 0641-0644
Bourne End Jn (Herts) 0650
Tring 0653
Ledburn Jn 0657
Bletchley 0702
Milton Keynes Central 0705-0717
Hanslope Jn 0723
Weedon 0732
Hillmorton Jn 0740
Rugby 0743-0749
Rugby Trent Valley Jn 0751
Brinklow 0758
Attleborough Jn 0803
Nuneaton 0806-0810
Amington Junction 0821
Lichfield North Jn (Ll) 0826
Rugeley North Jn 0831
Colwich 0835
Stafford 0841-0856
Norton Bridge 0903
Madeley (Staffs) 0910
Crewe Basford Hall Jn 0915
Crewe 0919-0922
Crewe Coal Yard 0924
Winsford 0929
Hartford Jn 0933
Acton Bridge 0934
Weaver Jn 0936
Acton Grange Jn 0938
Warrington Bank Quay 0940
Dallam Junction 0941
Winwick Jn 0942
Springs Branch Jn 0947
Wigan South Jn 0947
Wigan North Western 0948
Balshaw Lane 0957
Euxton Jn 1001
Preston 1006-1011
Garstang & Catteral 1020
Lancaster 1030
Morecambe South Jn 1031
Carnforth D&U.G.L. 1038-1122

Loco change from 86259 to 46233; not noted but time available

Carnforth North Jn 1125
Oxenholme Lake District 1141
Tebay 1158
Penrith North Lakes 1224
Carlisle 1243

Train 1Z87 runs THO from 14/06/12 to 14/06/12
Type STP Diesel Loco Timed at 060mph

Steam loco expected; is diesel shown as contingency (fire alert ?) ?

Operator WR WEST COAST RAILWAY COMPANY (22244008)

Carlisle 1428
London Rd. Jn. 1430
Petteril Bridge Jn 1432
Howe & Co Sdgs 1441
Low House Crossing S.B. 1446
Lazonby & Kirkoswald 1454
Culgaith Signal Box Lc 1505
Kirkby Thore Signal Box 1508
Appleby 1514-1555
Ormside 1559
Crosby Garrett 1605
Kirkby Stephen 1608
Mallerstang 1614
Ais Gill 1620
Garsdale 1623
Blea Moor 1633
Ribblehead 1636
Helwith Bridge 1643
Settle Jn 1649
Hellifield Goods Loops 1657-1726
Hellifield 1728
Horrocksford Jn 1755
Clitheroe 1757
Langho 1807
Daisyfield Jn. 1816
Blackburn 1819-1821
Lostock Hall Jn 1836
Farington Jn 1840-1859

Loco change : 86259 for 46233 ?

Euxton Jn 1902
Balshaw Lane 1904
Wigan North Western 1912
Wigan South Jn 1913
Springs Branch Jn 1914
Winwick Jn 1918
Dallam Junction 1919
Warrington Bank Quay 1920
Acton Grange Jn 1921
Weaver Jn 1924
Acton Bridge 1925
Hartford Jn 1926
Winsford 1930
Crewe Coal Yard 1936
Crewe 1939-1948
Crewe Basford Hall Jn 1951
Madeley (Staffs) 1955
Norton Bridge 2003
Stafford 2006
Colwich 2011
Rugeley North Jn 2013
Lichfield North Jn (Ll) 2019
Amington Junction 2023
Nuneaton 2035-2039
Rugby Trent Valley Jn 2051
Rugby 2053-2056
Hillmorton Jn 2058
Weedon 2107
Hanslope Jn 2124
Milton Keynes Central 2131-2134
Bletchley 2138
Ledburn Jn 2147
Tring 2154
Bourne End Jn (Herts) 2159
Watford Junction 2206-2209
Harrow & Wealdstone 2214
Wembley Central 2218
Willesden West Londn Jn 2222
Camden Jn 2230
Camden South Jn 2231
London Euston 2236

 

No, I just like the LMS numbers despite the paint schemes. Same for most other locomotives 4498/60007 Sir Nigel Gresley for example.

 

Times as posted earlier now confirmed at t0614b.htm

 

what is going to power the Weymouths this year?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if 34067 makes a few appearances, with 70000 and 4464? Maybe even 70013? I can dream...

James at SVN

 

Do you mean the Sunday Bristol-Weymouth trips, or the mid-week Dorset Coast Expresses from London?

The DCEs are supposed to be from a pool of 777, 70000, 4464 and 34067, and should be different locos out and back.

The Sunday trips are more problematic. Of the nominated locos, Nunney Castle is having new tyres fitted, and Braunton is not yet certified for the mainline. It might make sense for the loco that hauled the DCE down mid-week, and therefore is probably laying-over at Yeovil Junction, to work the Sunday train, assuming the L/E moves can be arranged and a support crew is available.

 

sorry, yes I meant the Sunday ones. As you say both rostered locos are unlikely to be available. Nightmare for the organisers to lose both.

 

Oliver Cromwell shall be a part of the Crewe Pool this year, so I would not be expecting that on the Weymouths

34067 Tangmere, I think is going to power the first Weymouth. She shall be pulling the Royal Wessex the day before from London to Weymouth w/70013 doing the eastbound to London. A light engine from Weymouth to Bristol I don't think shall be that far fetched.

 

Last year, 70013 did a lot of swapping between Crewe and Bristol to keep things happy. It turned up at crewe late because of work down south and then left early for more work filling in. I expect we will see the same this year.

 

As Britannia and Duke of Gloucester are down there, will they be an option?

 

Just received my tickets for the "Swanage Belle" on the 21st and it says the locos are now 70013 and 34067 so, will 70013 be fit?