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Reinstated for the duration

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Reading General, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

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    We know about 563, what others had a WW2 reprieve I wonder?

    There were several tanks used as air raid shelters, parked in sheds over pits with sandbags added.
     
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    The J21 was one, I'm sure someone a bit more in the know could tell the whole story in a bit more detail.
     
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    Ex-Highland Rly/Caley "Rivers" LMS Nos. 14758 and 14760 were definitely reinstatements.

    Some ex-LNWR 'Prince of Wales' class 4-6-0's which survived WWII were certainly for the chop until the Austrian Corporal got uppity. Whether they were reinstated or just 'hung on' I'm not too sure, but I've seen a (colour!) shot of "Lusitania" immediately postwar at Birmingham New Street.
     
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    On the GWR you'd have to say dozens, possibly hundreds. RCTS says the GWR lost 100 Dean Goods (from a total of around 3 and a half thousand locos) almost immediately, and reinstated 20 withdrawn locos (some of which made up the 100) and were lent 40 LMS 2fs and 3fs (despised) and 40 LNER J25s (haven't heard an opinion of those). But thereafter normal withdrawals more or less ceased for the duration, so there were any number of locomotives that staggered on into late 40s/early 50s that otherwise would have been long gone.

    As for surviving locomotives, the GWR had such a major clearout in the late 40s/early 50s that offhand I think the only surviving GWR locomotive that might possibly have been withdrawn over that period is 2516 at Swindon, and the other 1897 built Dean Goods that escaped going to France seem to have survived into the mid 50s, so it seems unlikely. 563 must be pretty much unique as an example of how run down a locomotive was allowed to get at the end of its service with the pre Nationalisation lines.
     
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    488 (The Adams Radial) was essentially derelict on the East Kent Railway by the beginning of the war but then reprieved when there was a desperate need for more motive power on the Lyme Regis Branch: bought by the SR for £120 in 1946 and restored for another 14 years service before preservation.

    The Terrier 54 was another that led something of a charmed life: it was sold to the SE&CR and renumbered 751 in their list; set aside in 1926 out of use; reprieved in 1929 to provide steam for a coal crusher at Eastbourne; sent to Brighton in 1932 where it was overhauled and became the Lancing Carriage Works Shunter; reboilered in 1937 (removing a boiler of Wainwright design with a Drummond chimney!); it lasted until 1962 and then went to Canada for preservation.

    Quite a number of pre-grouping locos on the SR had a stay of execution at the beginning of the war; some were sent to other users (especially the LMS) to bolster those fleets; a few D tanks were converted to mobile fire engines for use in London etc. There was a mass cull of such antiquated relics in the years 1946 - 1951, the SR having scrapped hardly anything still capable of movement during the war.

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    I've mentioned the E4 on another thread I've read that this is another one that was put aside for the duration
     
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    Another question is what preserved locos were cut up for scrap as a result of the war. Beyer Peacock Ryde was one.
     
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    LSWR T1 / F6 class were being withdrawn in the 1930s, when the war started there were around 21 sill in traffic, 15 survived in to British Railways ownership (all later F6 type) No: 30001-5, 30007-10, 30013, 30020, 30361, 30363, 30366/7.

    The last to go was 30007 in June 1951, this engine was withdrawn in early 1939 and was reinstated after the war started October 1939

    Locomotive LSWR/SR 366, renumbered 30366 and scrapped in October 1948.
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    I think the LNWR Coal tank was another
     
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    My avatar. NELPGs P3/J27 had been hit broadside on in an acident at York in 1938-9, the LNER had thought of scrapping her, but relented and repaired/replaced the frames I think.
     

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