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Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by alastair, Sep 25, 2023.

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  1. Saint Austell

    Saint Austell New Member

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    The small amount of people bothered by this are this forum.
    99% don't care as long as the train runs and a % of them that it runs and the food offering is decent.
    Trains aren't run for this forums benefit
     
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  2. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Not certain I agree with that. My guess is that quite a lot of people on this forum do travel on heritage charters whatever the motive power, whether it is steam, diesel or electric. I feel sure that anyone who has already booked will be contacted to explain the change. My experience is that the RTC is good on such things although in some cases I am not sure that they always have direct control over what may change.
     
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    I'm sure those who have booked on it will by now have received either a partial refund or a discount off a future trip. Given where the tour is going, I also think a majority will have booked on it purely for the destination, rather than the traction or routing.
     
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    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    If most of the customers don't care whether the traction is steam or diesel, how come the promoters are able to charge higher fares when it's steam?
     
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    I'm not sure there is much of a 'steam premium' these days, Pathfinder are charging £135 for a trip out with class 40..
     
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    So why was Kelly Osborne publically thanking David Smith for prioritising RTC trips over their own West Coast excursions in the latest railway mags this month?
     
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    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I do not see this perceived higher price for steam, unless you are referring to the LSL Intercity vs Saphos pricing.
    UKR trip to Blackpool Saturday was £129 std, £189 first
    Pathfinder Edinburgh on 23rd £135/£199
    RTC today's Armistice Trip £115/£225, but I believe they may have moved to 2025 pricing already.


    So a WCME with Les Ross and steam, is less than Les Ross to Blackpool in standard last weekend.
     
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    It appears that The Chester Christmas Express from Scarborough has been removed from the website too.
     
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    In business, there are circumstances when it's best to be polite and keep the peace. <BJ>
     
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    44871 on todays Armistice Express, seen at Bearsted, Charing, Ashford, Sturry, Dover seawall, Folkestone and Otford:
     
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    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    I confess I haven't looked closely at current prices but I thought I had seen mutterings somewhere on this forum of prices being somewhat higher for steam. If nothing else, someone has to pay for a fireman and the cost of taking a support coach.
     
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    16th Nov, White Rose….44871 I believe. Note return is diesel hauled to Gascgoine Wood, before reversing with the steam taking charge.

    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U32830/2024-11-16/detailed

    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U32833/2024-11-16/detailed


    23rd Nov Edinburgh Market Trip out…..Fairly standard path to Edinburgh, the return sees another pathing stop added at Dunbar….

    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U34661/2024-11-23/detailed

    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U34664/2024-11-23/detailed
     
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    You certainly had a busy day, but well worth it.
    Interesting watching the departure from Dover as you can see exactly when the diesel kicked in.
     
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    Some great video clips and locations there. Thanks.

    That was also a good set of clips to get a sense of what goes on with these dual power charters. So seven clips with at least four of them showing the diesel giving a pretty obvious push along, as you would expect.
     
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    More importantly, you can see the exact moment the crew spotted totty on the foot bridge!
     
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    My own take away from yesterday's Armistice Day Express: crossing Eynsford Viaduct.

    PSX_20241112_165204.jpg
     
    Wagoniester, Nov 12, 2024
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    She has also said she expects the MK1s to return next year
     
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    Let's see if she is party to some information no one else seems to be aware of.
     
    acorb, Nov 13, 2024
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    No, they are not, per se, but this is a discussion forum and comments have formed part of a...discussion.
     
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    Plus, I imagine, the cost differential between coal (the the logistics around its loading, etc.) and diesel fuel.
     
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