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September 5th Exeter Cathedrals Express changed again.... to 30th October!

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by green five, Aug 27, 2010.

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  1. keith6233

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    Having looked at this thread it seems not to tell the full story the following is logged on the network rail system.

    60019 passed a signal at danger on Saturday in Waterloo station and ran through a set of points. According to Network Rail incident log the driver states the signalman gave him permission to start ahead of the signal. A total of 224 trains were delayed causing 2543 minutes delay.
     
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    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Oh dear. Not looking good for one party or the other then. I suppose selfishly we'll have to hope it's not the driver of the tour that's at fault, as that looks like a hefty fine for delay in the offing.
     
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    Even I think that makes the box issue irrelevant. Fingers crossed for all concerned.
     
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    malc Part of the furniture

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    That seems to tie up with what I have been told. I did not want to state it here as I don't know the full facts, although I understand that Network Rail accepted responsbility and the driver was cleared of any blame (which was why the train was eventually allowed to continue).
     
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    Sheff wrote: " Thank you very much for setting the record straight, though doubtless there will be those on here who claim to know better. "
    I'd like to think those who know best are those who were there at the time dealing with the problem.

    david1984 wrote: "Was it not stated twice there was an oiling issue with the driving axle ?, i suspect taking some of the weight of the train off it could of been an attempt to prevent it possibly running hot. "

    Spot on David.
    At Salisbury, I put my hand on the rods at the centre axle (a routine check) and found each to be too warm. After another check at Basingstoke, I believe the diesel provided assistance so that the rods weren't being driven too hard. It doesn't completely solve the problem, as they are still moving and thus able to get warm themselves, but it helps.

    malc said: "That seems to tie up with what I have been told. I did not want to state it here as I don't know the full facts, although I understand that Network Rail accepted responsbility and the driver was cleared of any blame (which was why the train was eventually allowed to continue). "

    That's all correct.
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    belle1 Part of the furniture Moderator

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    Thank you very much for that explanation from 60019Bittern in the previous post.

    Neil.
     
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    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    I have been talking to several of my contacts on this matter and have been given the following definitive statement.

    'The train on Saturday was involved in an operational incident. Any allegation of a SPAD was swiftly dismissed after a downloading of the voice recording tapes. This meant that the train was then able to depart once the route had been made safe by the endeavour of the local Network Rail team. The opportunity was also taken to route the train via Surbiton to minimise overall delay and look forward to the afternoon. This allowed time in Exeter and an ontime departure of the return'

    I hope this will end the supposition and ill informed comments regarding the SPAD and/or driver error, and any other assumptions regarding the tour.
     
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    Sounds to me like Network Rail did everything they could to make up for an operational error on their side, which is fair play to them.

    Regards,

    Dan
     
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    belle1 Part of the furniture Moderator

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    Due to a number of members suggesting that the diesel debate be moved to one thread this will be carried out over the next 12 hours, hopefully less.

    If you find the thread is locked or posts that are relevant to the thread are moved please bear with the team. These will be reinstated as soon as possible and the threads unlocked for general discussion about the railtour.

    Those members wishing to continue the debate regarding the use of diesels on steam tours can do so in this thread:-

    http://railways.national-preservation.com/showthread.php/27457-Steam-Tours-And-Diesels

    The moved posts will appear in this thread and the thread will be locked. This can be used for reference for those who have previously posted in the seperate tour threads:-

    http://railways.national-preservation.com/showthread.php/11303-Diesels-on-steam-tours

    Thank you for your patience.
     
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