Severn Valley Railway Autumn Steam Gala 18-21th September 2014

As will the guards journal.

 

There we go, what cant speak cant lie

 

Allowing for just one foot to spare seems risky, plus I was told by someone who doesn't usually make things up that the local didn't fit by about 10 feet rather than just 3 as it would have been if it was purely down to the lack of accounting for the buffers. Nevermind...

 

Maybe I've been misunderstood. I was merely suggesting that if individual loco diagrams were produced for crews instead of or in addition to the main WTT then these could also be for sale for very little outlay. I can't see how an electronic document would be time consuming to produce, it's obviously made electronically so a digital form must exist. All that would be needed us a way to securely pay for that digital document.

I take the point about people being able to pass around the document, but given the responses here I doubt that many people will be that enthusiastic to, it won't be much easier to share than the current situation.

 

No you have not been misunderstood. We understand you all too well!!!

 

Just reading some of the comments on here are starting to wind me up at the mo. Being posotive we've had 4 pretty good days (weathers been crap I know for 2) but other than that what else do you some of you people want? This loco didnt run with that coloured stock, well boo hoo. Shall we just be grateful 3 out of 4 visiting locos came out of a scrapyard the 4th came home from the other side of the Atlantic. A lot of the stock we're just so lucky to have.FFS what do some people want? Can we just not enjoy the fact we've had somthing rather special happen on a piece of railway that parts of which enjoyed following Nature into the Severn not so long ago. Major rant over.

 

No, because you were suggesting I wanted a specially made online WTT requiring many hours to produce (as a timetable does - full credit to those who do, must be a bugger to do) costing less money. All I was suggesting is a digital copy available for purchase, where does the SVR lose money in that?

 

If it were done along the lines of many other publications the railway could actually make money whilst the public save it, as by charging for the down load of the document but passing on part (Not all) of the cost of the printing, we are all better off. As for producing individual loco diagrams it may be worth looking into, although perhaps e.mailing the railway might be a better forum for your suggestion than this thread, the marketing department are always open to ideas.

 

An in answer to your other question Flying Scotsman 123, yes we get our loco diagrams as well as a full WTT

 

Completely agree with those sentiments. Unfortunately it is part of some human's nature to expect and want more the more they're offered / given. The rest of us just have to take a few deep breaths can carry on regardless IMO.

 

A set of my photos from Saturday can now be seen on my Zenfolio website at: - http://mickrogers.zenfolio.com/p833439356


Another very enjoyable gala at the SVR, so thanks and well done to all who had a hand in it.
Cheers,

 

As this is the second thread in 24hrs you’ve now personally attacked myself Mr Roberts, lets nip this in the bud. I have never directly “bitten your head off” and this is the first time you (and any other N-P member for that matter) has accused me of such, both on here and face-face. It’s amazing how more vocal you’ve become with a computer screen between us though.

Looking through both yours and my posts, the issue seems to be that you dive into threads with both feet and make sweeping statements, which when someone makes any attempt to clarify / explain / give reason to, you then get on your high horse and cry wolf. The SSS4 thread is an example of this, where you’ve told myself and Rossy how SSS2 was run and yet when we pointed out it was different you’ve then ranted at me (though you got my name wrong, despite it being in my profile) and told me to never reply to any of your posts (which you've since editted for whatever reason). TBF, if you don’t want people to reply to your comments then don’t post them, this is a discussion forum afterall. Having read through your previous posts, you previously questioned what authority Greg Wilson has to comment on CVR going-ons which just proves my point even more.

On here I’ve had too many people misquote me, and as the mods continually ask for evidence to back up any statements we as posters make, I try my best to provide a full explanation to my postings wherever possible. You need to realise there is a difference between the spoken word and written word though, and I’m not being nasty I’m simply explaining my posts to try and help my replies be understood fully.

As for the threat of physical violence and question of my attitude, I think you’ll find sarcasm is part of my character and away from the forum is taking in the humour it’s meant by those I socialise with (some of whom are on here). If you don’t like it tough, I’ve survived 27years so far despite your view, and if you have a problem it’s exactly that, your problem. The fact that many people have agreed with my viewpoint re: SVR WTT proves I had a point with the original post I made, so why you’ve taken offence when I wasn’t even replying to you is anyone’s guess.

If you want to continue this then feel free to pm me, otherwise let the SVR have its thread back instead of turning it into a battle ground. There are enough of those threads around & I don’t think Nat Pres needs another one.

 

Did 4566 fail at the end of the gala? Just seen a video of 43106 doing a local train up Eardington? I assumed the Highley-Kidderminster non stop around 6pm Sunday was done with the Pig as she was meant to be Bewdley based ready for the following day?

 

Quite agree. The TT was very poor by SVR standards. An hour layover at Kidder, 30mins at B'north. If you transferred onto the locals you had 30mins waiting to get on it, but then when they reached their destination you had another 30mins to wait for the next "mainline" service or nearly an hour for the next local. There was no fluidity with the services, and minimal number of connections that allowed you to make the most of the day.

Diagraming was poor too, why on earth would you bring a loco all the way from Dorset to only have it work the full length of the line once in 3 whole days? You can say there was a limit on loading, but 2010 gala saw 3205 wander around with 3x coaches the full length of the line quite happily.

Despite this, I still enjoyed the gala and was mightily impressed with the 4F. I did wonder how she'd cope with 8x Coaches but she didn't even feel them wherever she went. Loco of the gala for me, narrowly beating 73129 which was a constant beast all weekend. I'm still waiting for my hearing to return after Duncan deafened us coming off Victoria Bridge Saturday afternoon.

I do wonder though, is the SVR a victim of it's own success? I've been lucky to have attended most ASG since a young age, including the 2008 Cambrian Gala and 2010 40th anniversary galas, both of which are still favourably remembered amongst those that visited. Is the SVR struggling to maintain the standard set by these events? I did enjoy 2014 event, but would only class it as "good" and not "great". Yet thinking about it, if it had been my first ever visit to SVR I'm sure I would of been singing its praises from the rooftops. Maybe we don't realise just how lucky we've been to have experienced such great events previously, and it's proving hard to replicate this year upon year?

 

It is a problem in many areas: something sets the standard and then is judged against that standard in the future. I hope whoever does next year's timetable takes the feedback from this year's event into account and produces something more exciting (At times I though an extended C would be more interesting). It is the 50th anniversary year afterall...

 

Are you volunteering for the job?

 

I know someone who has already been having a go and I've been giving him a hand.

 

Second visit to the line, but first gala there, and yes I thoroughly enjoyed it, although we could only do Thursday/Friday. Kidderminster was quiet, but I just assumed this was normal at these events. Will definitely come back, and now planning to do SSS4.

 

To a certain extent Lil Bear has a point, we have been blessed with some stunning galas over the years, and bettering them year on yea can be tough for those involved organising them, but to put things in perspective, just think what the response would have been if ANY other railway had laid on that event, I suspect there would be none of the negative comments