If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Steam Dreams 2023

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Sam 60103, Nov 16, 2022.

  1. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Quite.
     
  2. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I see that 34046 managed to keep to the 15 minute water stop timing at Winchfield, perhaps because it used less than usual today in the dry conditions? I didn't bother to go to see it so don't know how it was being worked.
     
  3. banana patch

    banana patch Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    64
    I saw it at Fleet Station plenty of grey smoke and not too much noise from the rear estimate speed about sixty
     
  4. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Yes, there was a lot of grey/black smoke last week on the Surrey hills run but no audible effort from 34046 on the climb to Betchworth summit. Perhaps coal quality is poor.
     
    banana patch likes this.
  5. TheModster

    TheModster Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2019
    Messages:
    885
    Likes Received:
    1,758
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Heading through Wandsworth Town and Hook this morning:
     
  6. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Glad I didn't bother going to see it - well done for making the effort (unlike 34046!).
     
  7. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    22,589
    Likes Received:
    22,715
    Location:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Have they suddenly flattened the climb from Clapham Junction to Wandsworth Town?
    Compare and contrast.
     
    banana patch likes this.
  8. 45669

    45669 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    2,771
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Farnborough
    BRAUNTON trundling through Farnborough on the return journey:



    Ron.
     
    banana patch likes this.
  9. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    6,647
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Swanage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    A couple of images of the Weymouth trip (that I have turned into Black & White due to poor light and a more 60's feel)
    The reasonably unusual LE move heading away from Dorchester Junction and the climb to Bincombe No 2 Tunnel.
    Also a shot showing the "minor assistance" being received from the rear by 47614. As I mentioned on the Transparency thread lots of roadside signs about fire risk in Dorset, so the assistance is I am afraid understandable.
    This is far better shown the Southerner's excellent video from 9 minutes 15 onward.


    Only 6 of us at the tunnel, rather than the usual crowds, the rest obviously knew more than I did.

    Unusually due to the LE being held at Dorchester West the stock was taken into the station and Braunton attached there it seems. I am surprised these days attaching a steam loco in an area with unboxed live rails is not frowned upon. Most past practices seem to be banned these days. IMG_1999BW.jpg IMG_2008BW.jpg IMG_2011.JPG
     
  10. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    22,589
    Likes Received:
    22,715
    Location:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    That Weymouth trip. Why on earth didn't SD turn it into a top and tail diesel trip as Braunton did nothing? Less staff needed and probably less fuel used. OK - no steam loco on the turntable at Yeovil but would that really matter?
     
    green five likes this.
  11. 46223

    46223 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    6,693
    Likes Received:
    6,342
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lancs
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Nice video and photos.
    On the video, is that a tresspasser at 3:01?
     
  12. TheModster

    TheModster Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2019
    Messages:
    885
    Likes Received:
    1,758
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    To some, probably not. However, booking for a company called "Steam" dreams you'd expect to see a steam locomotive on the front except in the usual circumstances. It's been said that having the steam loco on as a 'show pony' probably would please people better than it not being there at all. Most company T&C's treat not having the steam on as a 'last resort'. Most passengers will just appreciate the fact the steam is there even if there is a diesel at the rear doing most of the work.

    There must've been some leniency with the fire risk assessment as Braunton was allowed to go solo for the move from Yeovil to Weymouth. Ok she probably didn't have to do much, but when NR insist on such matters she probably would've had to be towed, it's happened before with other LE movements in the past when its been hot and dry.

    The only good thing that would've probably come from TnT diesel yesterday is a quicker (and more direct without the need of going to Yeovil unless they did anyway for a more scenic route) trip. The timings were really surprising. 0830 start, 2336 finish. Meanwhile the RTC End of Southern Steam that does the exact same route leaves at 0845 and gets back at normally around 2200.
     
    banana patch likes this.
  13. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The difference, probably, is the fire risk - I imagine the 47 shoved hard up from CJ then eased off (and I noticed from the video that the signal was at yellow changing to double-yellow anyway). However, the effort seemingly wasn't very much in the 2013 video either. I didn't bother with yesterday's run because I expected little from 'Braunton'. I, too, have previously relied on the short climb away from CJ to produce some pleasing results...
    6574342205_96a55c56e0_o.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2023
  14. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Not certain, but it looks like a foot crossing to me, and the crew didn't seem bothered.
     
  15. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    6,647
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Swanage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I am not sure that is the case on timings is it.
    Last year it was due to leave Weymouth at 1709 and due at Waterloo via Surbiton at 2142. OK it ran late due to the track circuit failure earlier in the day, but going via Feltham adds about an hour from Woking, so by leaving at 18:36 it implies timing were speeded up to me. The last one I stewarded for the whole trip we were waiting at a red outside Victoria at 23:23 according to some images I have.
     
  16. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    8mm of rain overnight here in Surrey - let's hope it's been enough to reduce the fire risk significantly, for a week or so at least.
     
  17. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Presumably a significant number of passengers still want(ed) at steam loco at the front, working or not.
     
    Spitfire likes this.
  18. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    6,647
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Swanage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I would be surprised if that little rain made much difference to level of risk. We need a few days of steady rain. Nothing at all down here in Purbeck, not sure about the rest of Dorset.
    Of course as Tesco say "every little helps":)
     
  19. Deepgreen

    Deepgreen Well-Known Member Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    1,403
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Early retirement! (Ex-Business Improvement, LU).
    Location:
    Gomshall, Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    8mm is a significant amount (a third of an inch in old money). All the long vegetation in my garden is soaked today so I wouldn't be able to start a fire easily if I tried. Of course in high summer things dry out quickly again, but at the moment things are very damp. The cold front and trough that brought our rain was too far east for Dorset (and it was forecast to pep up as it got to the south-east).
     
    Spitfire likes this.
  20. gricerdon

    gricerdon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,790
    Likes Received:
    868
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gricer and Grandad
    Location:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    5 mm here just east of Southampton. It would make very little difference but more forecast next week. Yes we need some long periods of rain
     

Share This Page